May 4, 2012
Pathetic: Tomblin, Manchin

Two of West Virginia's top Democratic Party figures -- U.S. Sen. Joe Manchin and Gov. Earl Ray Tomblin -- won't say whether they support Democratic President Barack Obama for re-election this year.

What a pathetic abdication of leadership. Tomblin and Manchin are turning their backs on the party that put them in office -- the party that aids America's average working families instead of the elite 1 percent at the top.

We assume that the governor and senator are pandering to thousands of West Virginia DINOs (Democrats in name only) who voted for the Republican Bush-Cheney ticket in 2000 and 2004, plus the GOP McCain-Palin ticket in 2008.

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    61 Comments
    Posted By: new1
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    The most impressive well thought out sentence in this oped. written by (I assume) a well educated Progressive is this..."Instead, they'd probably buy bigger machines."
    Posted at: May 05, 2012 5:32:27 am

    Posted By: AaronS
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    Frankly, we think...

    Frankly James, you think too much as Obama is one of the worst Presidents in the history of this great nation.

    I love though how you've turned on two individuals with whom you've so recently endorsed for the offices they now hold.
    Posted at: May 05, 2012 7:00:38 am

    Posted By: knanners
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    You are out of touch with the State!! We are a conservative people and do not agree with Obama's social agenda. Obama, the Washington Democrats and Rockefeller are killing this state with their EPA regulations and hostile policies to the coal industry. You should be applauding Manchin and Tomblin for representing West Virginia and not the Democratic party.
    Wake up to what is happening to WV and quit endorsing someone just because of their party. Obama has been the worst thing to ever happen to this country !! He has done more to divide us on race and economic issues than any President in history. He and the democrats forced health care reform down our throat and paid, and continue to pay the price with heavy losses in the House, Senate and hopefully the Presidency this year !!!
    Survey our state and your readers, I would guess most agree with me and not that horrible editorial you published !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Posted at: May 05, 2012 7:27:11 am

    Posted By: NPanhandle
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    Here come the trolls. Please do not feed them.
    Posted at: May 05, 2012 7:35:12 am

    Posted By: nitehntr
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    you commented about how we are less educated and just feed the stereotype of the ignorant hillbilly. did you ever stop to consider that people just have differences with the president ? this is not a state full of racists as you would have everyone think. people in West Virginia are for the most part pro life. no matter which side of that issue you are on it is a huge part in a persons decision on who they vote for. and the president is on the wrong side of that issue for the vast majority of West Virginian's. another point is that i have read in your various columns for years about the the mines being mechanized in the 1950's. well you need to read your history because the mines were mechanized with the full approval of the UMW. if you are going to present a point of view at least present all the facts.
    Posted at: May 05, 2012 9:26:02 am

    Posted By: Joe6Pk
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    Bizarre: Far left politics.

    If I wanted to label myself as a far-left toady, this is what I would say.

    "Frankly, we think Obama is a great president. His intellect is awesome, perhaps the finest since President Thomas Jefferson. He has fought for human rights and American betterment. His crusade for universal health insurance fits the great Democratic Party tradition of helping families through Social Security, Medicare, Medicaid, equality laws and the rest of the progressive agenda."
    Posted at: May 05, 2012 9:27:49 am

    Posted By: agusta55
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    What a disjointed, mindless, fact-void piece of prattle that has seen ink in a long time. It does not require a political scientist to know that it's not about diffences of opinion Manchin and Tomblin have with Obama, it's fence-straddling to garner votes of West Virginian's who are disgusted with Obama and his adminsitartion's policies. They are just demonstrating politics 101--go the way the wind blows. Yet, the Gazette Editor condems them for playing politics in an election year by asking them do the very act that you advocate--blindly vote the party ticket. And, for you to hold up Rocky, I've never seen a wasteful social program I didn't love and Nickey Joe, I wasn't trying to influence a judge for my son's sentencing, I just reached for the wrong stationary, as stalwart examples of statesmen is an insult to the intelligence of WV voters north of Charleston. The days of WV voters blindly voting for Yellow Dog Democrats are over along with the Gazette's endorsement influ
    Posted at: May 05, 2012 9:34:04 am

    Posted By: BigDawg
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    Kudos to you guys for calling out Tomblin,Manchin,and the rest of the DINOs (or as I call them Republicrats)
    Posted at: May 05, 2012 9:34:17 am

    Posted By: unbiased2
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    What's pathetic is the Gazette thinking there can be only one type of Democrat: A SCREAMING LIBERAL who doesn't care or recognize that huge budget deficits are more rapidly under Obama of sending America into economic ruin. Europe is only a step or two from exactly that.
    Will Rogers once said "I don't belong to a political party. I'm a
    Democrat." In his day a large percentage were DINOS, as the Gazette sneeringly coins them and most WV Democrats were DINOS.
    Obviously, the Democratic Party in his day was much different than the Gazette unfailingly tries to convince people it is today.
    The Gazette has no convincing explanation why WV voters consistently vote for Republican presidential candidates.
    Me? I'm an Independent and proud of it. I just can't agree with the extreme positions extreme left or extreme right wingers take but the latter have fewer. I suppose this puts me in the group of voters called "right of center" where most Americans are reportedly in tod
    Posted at: May 05, 2012 9:42:36 am

    Posted By: wjohn101
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    "Turning their backs on the party that put them in office"? What does that mean? West Virginians put these two in office and its refreshing to actually see two democrat politicians who are sane, first of all, then actually care about our state and aren't far left wackos intent on destroying us.

    They are the type our state will have in the interim as it is transitioning into a solid republican state. West Virginia voters are evolving but its hard to shake their old misplaced loyalty in the democrat party that has betrayed and abandoned them. It may take another generation to clean house in Charleston. But one can only ignore reality for so long and even the most ignorant dolt among us (except gazette writers) knows that liberal democrats are destroying our nation and state.
    Posted at: May 05, 2012 9:56:38 am

    Posted By: rexcraigo
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    Thank you eds for an excellent take on the pitiful governor and senator who are making a living pandering to the uneducated sector of the state who accept the "be afraid" philosophy that republicans push on them. It's sad and disgusting to those of us who understand the truth.
    Posted at: May 05, 2012 10:57:01 am

    Posted By: Mountaineer In Texas
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    If you were to write the same about a Republican senator and/or governor, you would be writing of their courage, and insight as they battle their own party for good. You would talk about how brave they are and standing up for what's right. You would talk about them risking their political futures.
    Right now we have the most divisive president that we have had in my lifetime. President Obama, who has declared that he wants to "fundamentally transform America", has killed the economy with his policies. His war on energy is apparent throughout the entire country. Real unemployment is close to 20% with fewer and fewer people looking for the less and less jobs avaialable. Unemployment among young blacks is upwards of 50%.
    I applaud your governor and senator for their stands. Both realize the key to success of any economy is jobs, jobs, and jobs. Everywhere the dependence is on government - to the extent advocated by this administration - the economies have failed.
    Posted at: May 05, 2012 12:37:00 pm

    Posted By: DJ77
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    Good post, rexcraigo.
    Posted at: May 05, 2012 12:44:58 pm

    Posted By: cg
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    Agree. West Virginians are DINOs as are Legislators, Manchin and Tomblin.
    Posted at: May 05, 2012 12:50:21 pm

    Posted By: prdoc1
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    Mr Haught,
    You sir, are an idiot! Pure and simple ... no other word for it.
    As a former journalist, I am ashamed that some believe this rag is an example of a newspaper. You are a shameless hack -- and a not-to-bright one on top of that -- hiding behind the facade of a newspaper.
    It is my sincerest hope that you have finally gone too far with this editorial, accusing the people of West Virginia of being ignorant, racist rednecks. Perhaps your newspaper's constant loss of readership has made you bitter and possibly a bit psychotic. I suggest counseling as soon as possible.
    Posted at: May 05, 2012 1:22:48 pm

    Posted By: NPanhandle
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    Judging from these comments, it seems that West Virginians PRIDE themselves on having the lowest percentage of college graduates in the entire nation.
    Posted at: May 05, 2012 2:13:25 pm

    Posted By: unbiased2
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    NPanhandle:

    One does not need to be a college grad to come to these conclusions, Mr. Left Wing Elitist.
    Posted at: May 05, 2012 2:38:46 pm

    Posted By: a voice
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    It's refreshing to see the Gazette speak the words that have been on every Democrat's mind. There is no leadership coming from Tomblin or Manchin. Both have allowed the extraction industries to tell us how we are supposed to vote based on their fearmongering and out-right lies. Well there are many Democrats left who have seen the light and will not continue to follow the DINOs who have led voters astray with their promises of job and prosperity that have never materialized.
    By running a DINO and friend of Joe in WV-01 in 2010, we are now saddled with McKinley, another friend of coal/oil/gas, but certainly no friend to the people.
    Let's hope that during this election that Democrats take a real stand and prove to everyone that the WV Democratic Party did not die with Robert Byrd.
    Posted at: May 05, 2012 3:18:24 pm

    Posted By: Know
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    Pro-life until the baby is born and Pro-coal until the bribes run out.

    Sad but TRUE!
    Posted at: May 05, 2012 4:20:19 pm

    Posted By: bambislayer525
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    This opinion begs for so many responses...where does one begin.I'm. A born/bred. West Virginia Republican with a college degree, not the stereotype presented here. I disagree with President Obama not because he is half black but because I think he is wrong. Also, you say wealthy mine owners have reduced the number of miners. How many typesetters do you currently employ, or proofreaders? How many did you employ 20 years ago?
    Posted at: May 05, 2012 5:49:15 pm

    Posted By: greenbowl
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    Manchin/Tomblin are owned by coal, a dying industry. Poor people in WV derive no benefit from coal and are deluded by the 1% to think that somehow "big coal" really provides any benefit to the masses. Look at the areas of WV where coal has been ripped from the seams indiscriminately and see if you see any evidence that any riches were ever there. McDowell - pathetic home to methadone clinics and no jobs where a task force has to be developed to try to create some semblance of civilization; Mingo - #2 in the state for drug overdose deaths, etc. etc. etc. Coal Mining - what a great thing for the state! Give me a break - think for a change. If you were a child with parents physically and sexually molesting you, you would probably still love them and want to remain with them because that is what you know. If you are a West Virginian and are raped and pillaged by the coal industry, you probably won't have the gumption to turn against it - that's what you know. You can change.
    Posted at: May 05, 2012 11:22:04 pm

    Posted By: Tell Me 2
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    I was born here. I've lived all of my life here, except for four years in college. Most West Virginians ARE ignorant, racist rednecks.
    Posted at: May 06, 2012 1:23:22 am

    Posted By: hivoltage
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    @Mountaineer in Texas

    Very good comments. Keep up the good work.
    Posted at: May 06, 2012 5:49:13 am

    Posted By: JustRight
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    Most Democrat voters in this state feel that their party has left them behind, taken over by the minority, so-called "progressive" liberal elites. It is largely the reason WV voters turned back Gore, John F. Kerry (who served in Vietnam),and The O.

    Sadly, many West Virginians still hold the foolish belief that the Democrat party stands for the common man; the same party that is working to co-opt all power--not to the people--but into the hands of the few.

    WV is a conservative state. Her voters have wisdom. They are right to turn away dangerous liberal leaders. And no amount of race-baiting, class warfare and browbeating by the Pravda-on-the-Kanawha is going to change that, fortunately.

    Like Byrd before him (and unlike New York Senator Rockefeller), Manchin has his finger on the pulse of the WV voter. As voters, we have the right to expect that from the people we elect.
    Posted at: May 06, 2012 7:12:41 am

    Posted By: Red Dragon 70
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    @ prdoc1, who says, "It is my sincerest hope that you have finally gone too far with this editorial, accusing the people of West Virginia of being ignorant, racist rednecks.

    Maybe, just maybe this is because so many of those who post here from WV are just as you describe, "ignorant, racist, rednecks." On the grand stage, neither Manchin nor Tomblin are of much consequence beyond the hills. North of the Mason-Dixon, and west of the Ohio River, who knows them and who cares what they say, think, or feel. The greatest resonance either can get outside of the Mountain State is south of Bluefield, or in the "land of cotton where old times there are not forgotten."
    Posted at: May 06, 2012 8:30:31 am

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