Op-Ed Commentaries
September 7, 2008
Howard Swint
W.Va. schools not that great: Despite union platitudes, W.Va. education lags

CHARLESTON, W.Va. -- In a recent commentary, "Our schools are among best in U.S." (Aug. 22), the new president of the West Virginia Education Association suggested that our school system really is among the best.

Regrettably, that just isn't true.

According to the U.S. Department of Education, measurable outcomes such as graduation rates, college attendance and adult education levels indicate we're average in some areas but far worse in others.

In an August report, West Virginia's graduation rate was 76.9 percent, which is slightly better than the dismal national average of 73.4 percent.

The nation's average "event" drop-out rate for the same period was 4.0 while West Virginia's was 3.9, reflecting further mediocrity, according to the National Center for Education Statistics.

Lest anyone take comfort in average U.S. performance, another federal Department of Education report, "The Condition of Education 2008 in Brief," found that "average U.S. science literacy was below the average of the 30 OECD [or industrialized] countries."

"U.S. students scored lower than students in 16 OECD countries and [statistically] higher than students in [just] 5 OECD countries," according to the National Center for Education Statistics.

The importance of science literacy is that it serves as a de facto measurement of workforce readiness.

Yet another federal education report found that West Virginia was dead last with the fewest number of college graduates at 10.2 percent, while the national average was 17.2 percent.

For those with graduate or professional degrees, West Virginia ranked 46th with only 6.8 percent of West Virginians achieving post-baccalaureate success.

Regrettably, the WVEA president cited not one measurable outcome to support the claim that "West Virginia's schools are among the best in the nation."

Instead, anecdotal stories about how the "rigor of the curriculum has intensified" are offered in place of real performance measures. 

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Posted By: One Citizen (10:19am 09-10-2008)
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@Monroe, Your claims that the teacher's wildcat in '90 produced everything they wanted and that it was ONLY over pay are TOTALLY FALSE. The FACT is they were also asking for the state to pay for their higher education, spend more on teaching equipment and funnel more money to poorer counties, plus better pension and health benefits.

Back then, only Mississippi paid teachers less than WV. Now, thanks to the wildcat, 2 states pay less.

Sad but TRUE.

If you were a EVER teacher and belonged to the WVEA, I'd be very surprised. Your spelling and grammar is sub-par. The WVEA does NOT support sub-par teachers and it never did. Maybe that's why you're bitter. And despite claiming that you taught, you apparently lied about your own profession and union.

If not lies, then your arguments are completely wrong, based on information which is severely flawed.

Finally, you weren't even respectful enough to our host to go by the rules of this comments board when you posted multiple posts in a row.

Posted By: RETRACTION DEMAND (7:02am 09-10-2008)
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Teachers struck for higher education and better equipment in 1990, but were forced to cave due to illegal wildcat, leaving WV teachers cold.

And WV media never properly covered it back then.

GOOGLE "West Virginia Teachers Vow To Continue Their Walkout"

Printed March 12, 1990, NY TIMES: "LEAD: Striking teachers said today that they would continue their statewide school walkout until Gov. Gaston Caperton called a special legislative session to deal with their demands for a pay increase and financing of higher education."

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"In addition to a raise, the teachers want improved health and pension benefits and say the state must spend more on teaching equipment and funnel more money to poorer counties."

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"The Governor later warned that teachers who stay off the job can be dismissed, while the State Superintendent of Schools, Hank Marockie, met with the 55 county superintendents in Charleston to discuss what he said was their duty to punish teachers who continued the walkout.

Posted By: Monroe (9:35pm 09-09-2008)
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Teacher have gone so far as to propose more taxes on the general population to fund bigger raises for them. One local principal told me that the excess levy in our county should pass because it would be good for the local economy. The teachers would get more money and spend it. He could not explain how him spending it locall would be better than for me to spend it locally.

I favor a starting salary of $40,000 for teacher with the average around $60,000 and you better turn out educated kids. We are going to fire you for poor performance. Your security depends on your performance. Education is way too important to tolerate bad teachers.
The education industry should not be a jobs program for people who can't do anything else and want summers and snow days off.

That's the way it is. No load of crap from the teacher unions will change reality. I'll quit for now.

Posted By: Monroe (9:25pm 09-09-2008)
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The argument has always been that to get better (read smarter more capable) teachers you must pay them more. There is a lot of truth in that, but, there has never been a shortage of teachers except in certain fields and in certain counties. There are ways to improve those shortages but the WVEA has always been against them, bonuses and/or higher pay in more competative areas like the eastern panhandle, etc.

Contrary to One Citizen (from the WVEA ?) the teacher's unions are not interested in improving teacher quality. They protect bad, even horrible and abusive teachers as much as they can. They are a union, not an education association, in spite of their name.

And this comparison of WV teacher pay with other states is a bogus argument except in some circumstances on the borders. You must look at the cost of living and the income of the citizens to get a better picture. WV spends a huge chunk of the budget on education, including pay.

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