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July 18, 2008
Bar owners fume over county smoking ban

CHARLESTON, W.Va. -- Angry bar owners railed against Kanawha County's two-week-old expanded smoking ban Thursday, saying it's devastating their businesses.

Bar and gambling parlor owners threatened to file a class-action lawsuit if the Kanawha-Charleston Board of Health doesn't rescind the new regulations. About 40 bar owners and patrons attended the health department meeting in Charleston.

"Everybody here is really hurting," said John Carney, owner of The Blue Parrot bar in downtown Charleston. "It's really hurting us financially."

Bar owners said business has dropped at least 30 percent since the smoking ban took effect July 1. Video lottery sales have taken a bigger hit, they said.

 When customers find out they can't smoke, they vow to never come back, bar owners told health board members.

"You're certainly taking away my business," said Cynthia Henson, co-owner of Griff's in South Charleston. "This is very difficult on us. We're going to lose everything. If people don't like smoking, they don't have to come into my establishment."

Keith Jenkins, owner of the Kanawha City Cantina, offered to put a large red sign on his bar's front door, warning the public that people were smoking inside.

"You guys are telling me how to run my business, and that's not fair," Jenkins said.

Other bar owners complained that when their smoking patrons went outside to smoke last weekend, Charleston police officers chased them back inside, threatening them with arrest.

"Whose health are you really concerned about?" said Dick Nalle, who owns MacNalley's Pub in Cross Lanes. "Tell me what you're getting out of it. Who are you saving?"

"We're concerned about the health of everyone," responded Brenda Isaac, the health board's president.

Health department officials said they've investigated several complaints about smoking in bars and gambling parlors during the past two weeks. No warnings have been issued.

The department plans to give businesses at least one warning before filing a complaint in Kanawha County Magistrate Court. Bars and gambling parlors face fines of $200 to $1,000 if they're found guilty of violating the smoking ban.

The expanded ban also prohibits smoking at the Tri-State Racetrack & Gaming Center in Cross Lanes. No smoking violations have been reported at the track.

Ivan Neely told health board members he frequents several bars in Charleston, and sales have dropped dramatically at each.

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Posted By: CDM (7:45pm 07-24-2008)
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Pretty soon they will want bars to quit serving alcohol because of non-drinkers or rehabilitated former drinkers. I noticed also that the non-smokers that claimed they would go to bars more if no one smoked would "finally get to go have some fun without smoke" ...yet bar owners saw a 30% loss after 2 weeks. Where are you non-smokers? Help the economy and small business owners. I have also noticed that all of the non-smokers now want to play BINGO because they can still smoke because it's non-profit. I think they just want to gripe. Stay home where you have been staying, you are just trying to control everyone else.

Posted By: virgilk (12:12am 07-23-2008)
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This has been ignored because there is no profit in it.

A U.S. Supreme court decision during the early 1970's
((Lloyd Corp v. Tanner, 407 U.S. 551 (1992)) said a place of business
does not become public property because the public is invited in.

So, by that same reasoning. A restaurant or bar is not public property.
We need to support small business and stop regulating them out of
business."

Bans are nothing less than a Sales Marketing Plan for smoking cessation products.

Posted By: virgilk (12:05am 07-23-2008)
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Look this up and you will see how we have been lie to about SHS/ETS.

HOUSE COMMITTEE ON ENERGY AND COMMERCE HEALTH AND ENVIRONMENT SUBCOMMITTEE STATEMENT OF HON. THOMAS J. BLILEY, JR. JULY 21, 1993

If you do any indepth research you will find it is about PROFIT not HEALTH.

Posted By: in waves (10:23am 07-23-2008)
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Don't worry, obesity is next. Watch the health trends in CA and NY.. and bet your sweet behind they will hit here in a few years.


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