January 27, 2009
Carter Zerbe
Me first a Bush legacy

CHARLESTON, W.Va. -- Unlike Michelle Obama, this is not the first time I have been proud of my country. However, I am a lot older than the first lady and it's been quite a few years since I felt good about our government.

The nadir, of course, has been the last eight years.

However, I must concede that in at least one respect, Bush merely epitomized a view held by a large number of Americans. There is a disturbing tendency in this country to equate liberty and freedom with self-indulgence and profligacy. To a great extent, this country is characterized by greed, avarice, gluttony and self-gratification. As Andrew J. Bacevich, a conservative historian and former colonel in the U.S. Army puts it: "For a majority of Americans, the essence of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness centers on a relentless personal quest to acquire, to consume, to indulge and to shed whatever constraints might interfere."

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    Posted By: One Citizen (3:13pm 01-29-2009)
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    Mntmeduck below thinks that his knowledge is that upon which we should all rely, having once posted that Bush's first bailout was "fought tooth and nail by most congressional republicans". But as usual, mtnmedic so badly overstates his case, it's his obvious attempt to play Karl Rove's old "blame game". In the Senate, Republicans could easily have blocked the bill, having already blocked record numbers of bills since 2007.

    Dec. 18 USNewswire/ -- The Republican Senate
    minority today filibustered an omnibus budget bill, setting a modern-day
    record for blocking the most legislation during a congressional session. A new report released today by the Campaign for America's Future details the 62 times conservatives have used the filibuster to block legislation (or force modification of bills)!

    Also, according to the Wall Street Journal, The Dem Governors Association and the Republican Governors Assoc. issued a joint statement pleading with Congress to "leave partisanship at the door".

    Posted By: WV Gentleman (10:15pm 01-28-2009)
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    I think the greatest source of unhappiness in this country is the pursuit of happiness - at least in the pursuit of material goods. By no means am I an ascetic or some pinko hippie, but this country places way too much emphasis on stuff and not enough on actually living. I'm not saying we should all build Zen gardens and relinquish all our possessions. But maybe there's more to life than buying a plasma TV.

    Posted By: mtnmedic (5:54pm 01-28-2009)
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    This is quite a judgemental assessment by a wealthy lawyer who made his millions by defending drunk drivers.

    Posted By: hey (12:23am 01-28-2009)
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    joe46and2, you said it well.

    It is too bad that too many of us are not lawyers who can rely on the less fortunate for a hearty income.

    Let Mr. Zerbe pay the $4- and $5-per gallon for gas! I will just stay at home and help the less fortunate next-door neighbor.

    Posted By: jes (10:49am 01-28-2009)
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    Whatever happened to helping in one's own community? I guess it looks better on the resume to say you helped shoe people in a third world country? Most of you may not know this, but we have people coming to WV from other countries to do missionary work in our southern counties.

    The message itself is a valid one, the messenger makes us wince though.

    Hard times, may help kick Americans in their proverbial tushes, to wake up about unnecessary credit card spending or that "buy buy buy - even if you don't have the cash for it" mentality.

    Posted By: jb2resWV (9:41am 01-28-2009)
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    The truth hurts the ones it identifies, keep whining while the real conservatives, the ones who actually conserve in their personal lives, who happen to be liberal minded politically, get ready for the coming collapse.

    Posted By: DragonLady (8:09am 01-28-2009)
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    Mr. Zerbe, I agree with your message and I'm not a lawyer.

    Posted By: skepdoc (12:32am 01-28-2009)
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    "I can't help but think that hard times may be what we need."

    Good grief.

    Does The Gazette read what these guys write ?

    Mr. Zerbe, you may have more than just a few naysayers in the audience, so why don't you start this "hardship" ball rolling, and just give me your money. Yeah, that'll be a start.

    Posted By: WV Gentleman (6:19pm 01-27-2009)
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    I like Mr. Zerbe's message, although I don't know him or care who he is or what he does.

    If Mr. Zerbe doesn't help barefoot children does that make your apathy justified?

    Or to put the question another way, if Mr. Zerbe was a decorated veteran or injured fireman, or donated tonnes of food and clothing, would his message of thrift, compassion, and frugality mean more to you?

    I think these difficult economic times are precisely what America needs to get back to our roots of frugality and resourcefulness. I'm not suggesting we live an ascetic lifestyle, but cut back that we only purchase and consume the things that we need or will *truly* make us happy.

    Posted By: curiousme (5:19pm 01-27-2009)
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    I think everyone multiple posts.

    Posted By: One Real Citizen (2:49pm 01-27-2009)
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    Why is it that Teddy B. aka OC, is exempt from the multiple post rule?

    Posted By: jedbartlett (2:45pm 01-27-2009)
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    I would like to know how many barefoot Charleston children Mr. Zerbe has helped with his "liberal", Peace Corps metality. This should not be difficult as he fleeces people for $5000.00 for representation for a 1st offense DUI charge. How many pairs of shoes has he and his liberal friends passed out in the Washington Manor or South Park housing projects.

    I wonder if he uses the same quote to the many drunk drivers that he uses for his own "self-indulgence". "I can't help but think that hard times may be the medicine we need"? Mr. Zerbe, I suggest you find some honor and diginity.

    Posted By: EB (1:01pm 01-27-2009)
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    For an ambulance-chasing, DUI-defending trial lawyer like Carter Zerbe to lecture anyone else about living a moral and generous life is a laugher.

    Posted By: One Citizen (12:58am 01-27-2009)
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    This is a real "Dickens Christmas Carol" moment in our lives. The Ghost of America's Future is upon our Jacob Marleys. Our Bob Cratchits are pushed to overtime to make up for fired co-workers. No health care means that many Tiny Tims will either die early or live out their lives crippled. But it isn't too late to regulate government relief for America's Cratchits. The Marleys who are now outsourcing overseas can be regulated to bring back jobs and increase our tax base. But CEO Marley's safety net is different. His personal income has long been tax-deferred through his own annuity purchases, and all the "unearned" income he's been paid via his company's stock gets taxed at a far lower rate than Cratchit's (or anyone else's) income.

    So in today's reality, that any Scrooge-like vision of either the present or future can ever convince the elite that greed is bad is highly doubtful. In the meantime, Mr Zerbe, Cratchit can barely afford to heat his home, much less 4 bucks a gallon for gas!

    Posted By: gmhoover (12:02am 01-27-2009)
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    Wow!!! ORC...you hit the nail! These guys will never get it. Thanks.

    Posted By: One Real Citizen (10:58am 01-27-2009)
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    It amazes me how much liberals who are not in line to do the suffering are willing to impose it on the poor and working Americans in the form of higher taxes and government spending.

    The only difference in OC's hypothetical is who the CEO's imposing the hardships on the working people are. He and other liberals prefer it to be the government and not the corporations that actually create jobs and pay wages.

    Posted By: One Citizen (10:10am 01-27-2009)
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    This is a real "Dickens Christmas Carol" moment in our lives. The Ghost of America's Future is upon our Jacob Marleys. Our Bob Cratchits are pushed to overtime to make up for fired co-workers. No health care means that many Tiny Tims will either die early or live out their lives crippled. But it isn't too late to regulate government relief for America's Cratchits. The Marleys who are now outsourcing overseas can be regulated to bring back jobs and increase our tax base. But CEO Marley's safety net is different. His personal income has long been tax-deferred through his own annuity purchases, and all the "unearned" income he's been paid via his company's stock gets taxed at a far lower rate than Cratchit's (or anyone else's) income.

    So in today's reality, that any Scrooge-like vision of either the present or future can ever convince the elite that greed is bad is highly doubtful. In the meantime, Mr Zerbe, Cratchit can barely afford to heat his home, much less 4 bucks a gallon for gas

    Posted By: Hswint (9:53am 01-27-2009)
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    You may not like the delivery but the message in essence dates to the Depression. It was the stark recognition of what was wrong in the preceeding years as outlined by FDR.
    Many parallels to today's culture and resultant economic downturn.

    Posted By: nozingers (9:13am 01-27-2009)
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    Why attack Zerbe because of his occupation or whether he owns a home and car? Owning things isn't the problem; building one's self-concept on what one owns is the problem. Zerbe's right in what he says, and I back him.

    Posted By: joe46and2 (8:05am 01-27-2009)
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    You make me sick. Get out of your ivory tower, you fool. Do you own a home? Do you own a TV? Do you own a car? Unless you live off the land and eat sprouts, the American way of life has given you everything. And yet you mock it, you hypocrite. You and your kind are the worst kind of self-righteous fools.

    Posted By: sadsam (6:50am 01-27-2009)
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    A "self indulgence, greed, avarice, gluttony and self-gratification" lecture coming from a lawyer? LOLOL

    Posted By: >123< (6:44am 01-27-2009)
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    A lawyer lecturing us about greed? 98% of lawyers give the other 2% a bad name.

    Posted By: deb11852 (2:35am 01-27-2009)
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    Thank You Mr. Zerbe!!

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