October 6, 2009
Manchin: EPA overstepped bounds
CHARLESTON, W.Va. -- Gov. Joe Manchin on Tuesday continued his criticism of the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency, calling its decision to more closely review mining permits in four states "cruel and inhumane."
Last month, the EPA referred 79 pending mining permits, including 23 in West Virginia, to its water quality experts and the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers for more scrutiny.
Speaking to reporters after an unrelated state Culture Center news conference Tuesday, the governor called the federal agency's move unfair and wrong.
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Is that the claim you’re speaking of?
“Duke will be looking to move away from mountaintop removal coal mining as its existing coal purchasing contracts expire.” He also expects “increased regulation of mountaintop removal from Washington, D.C.”
http://www.ilovemountains.org/news/524
I challenge you for the 8th time OC/TB to prove that.
And then you can show us where Bob Wise's, Cecil Underwood's, Gaston Caperton's, Arch Moore's and Jay Rockefeller's (all governor's since passage of the clean water act) DEP did any better then Joe Manchin's has.
It was only after the feds stepped in did the unbelievable continuous violation of Clean Water Act Permits subside, when they enforced a fine of $20 million and required another $10 million in remediation. Had Manchin sued instead of the feds, that $20 million would have rightfully gone into state coffers. Had they been enforcing in the first place, your WV neighbors may have actually SURVIVED!
Now your taxes are paying to run city water to places that historically could rely on pristine well water, thanks to Joe Manchin.
The Gazette is censoring posts they don't agree with. Fox welcomes all comers.
Iraq, Afghanistan, Gitmo, military tribunals, the Patriot Act, warrantless wiretaps and the economy are already Democrats babies. You can only blame GWB for MTM for so long and then it's liberal’s baby as well. That time is coming fast.
You better tell Sister Nan to hop to it and get the bill passed or people are going to start wondering when all this change that was promised is coming.
Pelosi needs to bring it to the floor !!
http://www.ilovemountains.org/clean-water-protection-act/#111thcosponsors
I will not stop belaboring this point until the Gazette tells me otherwise.
http://www.cnsnews.com/public/content/article.aspx?RsrcID=38638
To me, when you have to start silencing the opposition as liberals like Teddy One Citizen, the Gazette and other liberals do by methods of removing post on public forums or going as far as enacting a policy like the fairness doctrine, your message is garbage and your stance is corrupt.
But that's just me. I'm sure the editors have a perfectly logical reason for pulling post. They're just too scared to come forth with them.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fairness_doctrine
Interesting. Most of you guys won't admit the truth. I just wonder how much they paid for Jay.
Bush Administration Told By Congress and Court: Changing Environmental Rules to Allow Waste Dumps in Waters Violates the Clean Water Act
May 8, 2002
"Today, both the legislative and judicial branches of government came out in opposition to what the executive branch did to the Clean Water Act on May 3," said Joan Mulhern, senior legislative counsel for Earthjustice. "This should send a strong message to the Bush administration -- and the public -- that the administration's attempt to undermine the Clean Water Act is not only wrong, it is illegal."
http://tinyurl.com/mhw4zz
"Seems to me like we have a major failure of government agencies and we need to take a serious look at exactly who has been running this state for the past 80 year, give or take a few.
I can tell you who has been running this state for the past 80 plus years. The coal industry,lock stock and barrel. It hasn't mattered who has been in office. Coal has always run this state. The fact is that it has run this state into the ground.
The sad thing is that it is so commonplace that it is right out in the open for all to see and nobody cares IMO.
What was different under Arch Moore or Cecil Underwood? Both were miserable governors, much like Manchin. The only difference that I can see is that the first two I mentioned admitted they were republicans but Manchin is a DINO. All poorly ran the agencies and at least one of them ran this state into near bankruptcy. IMO every one of them was and is more cooked that a dog's hind leg.
As Pelosi shrieked, "That's un-American!"
Considering the number of fallacies you post, you'll need to provide something to back this statement up.
Massey violated its Clean Water Permits 28 times every day for 6 long years. Yet neither Joe Manchin nor his wonderful WVDEP stepped in to put a stop to it. His DEP has openly admitted that it never monitored properly, and is now stalling the settlement of SMCRA's definition of "reclamation". There are now reports that coalfield families are getting sick and dying at rates of over 5 times higher than non-coalfield Appalachians
It was only after the feds stepped in did the unbelievable continuous violation of Clean Water Act Permits subside, when they enforced a fine of $20 million and required another $10 million in remediation. Had Manchin sued instead of the feds, that $20 million would have rightfully gone into state coffers. Had they been enforcing in the first place, your WV neighbors may have actually SURVIVED!
I will never vote for him again!
It was only after the feds stepped in did the unbelievable continuous violation of Clean Water Act Permits subside, when they enforced a fine of $20 million and required another $10 million in remediation. Had Manchin sued instead of the feds, that $20 million would have rightfully gone into state coffers. Had they been enforcing in the first place, your WV neighbor may not have DIED!
Now, every one of Kentucky's coal ash ponds have been discovered leaking cancer-causing toxins into Kentucky's water supply. Does anyone think that ours are doing any better here?
It was only after the feds stepped in did anyone halt the unbelievable continuous violation of Clean Water Act Permits, by enforcing a fine of $20 million in restitution and $10 million in remediation. Had Manchin sued instead of the feds, that $20 million would have rightfully gone into state coffers
Recent studies show that every single one of Kentucky's coal ash ponds are leaking cancer causing toxins into their water supply. Does anyone think that ours are doing any better here in WV under Manchin and his WV DEP?
Like it or not, DuPont accepted their responsibility and re-aquired the land to clean it up. And what did they get for their troubles? A lawsuit for actions of their company from 50 years ago. T. L. Diamond was the last operator of the plant but it's hard to sue a company that's no longer around, isn't it? And we wonder why companies don't want to come to WV.
No where does it say that DuPont alone was declared the responsible party thus they were responsible for the entire clean up and why you continue to imply such is beyond me. The page says what it says and doesn't change the fact that DuPont took responsibility for their part as the re-acquisition of the property confirms.
Obviously you have an agenda because you've continued to post this on various sites that have nothing to do with DuPont or the Smelter plant trying to get anyone to listen to you. As you’ve failed in whatever it is you’re trying to prove and unless you have something new, consider yourself proven wrong.
Good day.
I'm only limited to 1000 words.
From your link.
Last Update: March 2001
No future updates
I posted.
In early 2001, Dupont and T. L.. Diamond, the Potentially Responsible Parties (PRPs), completed a Supplemental Site Assessment and a Human Health Risk Assessment. The reports have been submitted to the State for review. A determination will be made by the State if additional site assessment and or health risk information is needed. Following this, the West Virginia Voluntary Remediation Program calls for a Site Remedy Evaluation Report to be submitted by the PRPs.
No where does it state that DuPont, as you have asserted, does it state the DuPont was forced to assume responsibility. I don't know why the crusade against DuPont but perhaps if you stuck with facts and left the emotional out of it, you might get somewhere.
it clearly states a superfund removal order!
EPA issued a unilateral order for pile consolidation and the installation of erosion control and security measures in September of 1997. The PRPs have accomplished the work in the approved response action plan submitted in accordance with the order.
Cleanup of this site is being handled under an EPA Superfund Removal Order with the potentially responsible party
Is that the link you were trying to post ajf? I copied and pasted yours but it brought up a file not found page. So I did a search under the mid-atlantic superfund of Spelter Smelter and that was the page that came up.
I'm confused though. From the site.
Site oversight responsibility has been taken over by the State of West Virginia’s Voluntary Remediation Program. In early 2001, Dupont and T. L.. Diamond, the Potentially Responsible Parties (PRPs), completed a Supplemental Site Assessment and a Human Health Risk Assessment. The reports have been submitted to the State for review. A determination will be made by the State if additional site assessment and or health risk information is needed. Following this, the West Virginia Voluntary Remediation Program calls for a Site Remedy Evaluation Report to be submitted by the PRPs.
I read the entire page and didn't see where DuPont was forced to do anything.
Virginia, Spelter Smelter, Current Site Information (NPL Pad) |
Mid-Atlantic Superfund | US EPA</a>
And no, I don't need you to do my leg work rwc. I just expect you to back up the BS you post. If you can't do that, you're no better then the others spouting tripe without some sort of proof.
As for Massey, I don't think their agenda is hidden. You may not agree with it but I think they're pretty upfront with it. And like it or not, ANY and ALL who work for them share the EXACT same agenda.
I'll find the information I read on DuPont ajf and post it for you. If you have something that shows they were FORCED to participate in the clean up, I'd be interested in giving it a read.
As I know the truth, I really don't need to read Ken Ward's article but if you have the link, I'll check it out. I couldn't find your previous one.
Myself, I prefer to know the facts as they occur and not a version of a plaintiff's lawyer and remain ignorant but that's just me.
Good day sir.
Yes it is the governments fault. It is they who have the authority to put a stop to everything you are crying about, including issuing jail terms for repeated violators.
...just like not all miners working for massey support what there company does.
Sure they do, when they cash their paychecks. They either support Massey or they're the worlds biggest hypocrites. It's that simple.
Read the Fox News article , it explains it in-depth !!!
You're not alone rational.
President Barack Obama Wins Nobel Peace Prize
I don't know which question is more relevent truth, why or who cares?
Now , Oct 9 , 2009 ....
President Barack Obama Wins Nobel Peace Prize
OSLO -- President Barack Obama on Friday won the 2009 Nobel Peace Prize for "his extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples," the Norwegian Nobel Committee said.
"Only very rarely has a person to the same extent as Obama captured the world's attention and given its people hope for a better future," the committee said. "His diplomacy is founded in the concept that those who are to lead the world must do so on the basis of values and attitudes that are shared by the majority of the world's population."
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/10/09/president-barack-obama-wins-nobel-peace-prize/
Except for your last sentence - that has been the underlying theme of just about every post I have submitted on these MTR threads - MTR is not as black and white an issue as the fanatical extremists say.
So, if somebody wants to build a coal plant, they can — it’s just that it will bankrupt them, because they are going to be charged a huge sum for all that greenhouse gas that’s being emitted.
Obama to the San Francisco Cronical Jan 2008
You asked the question: Or are you saying ajf can post days worth of documents where there were violations but no punishment whatsoever?.. and I answered it.
You then stated: That my friend is a failure of the regulating agency and is where your wrath should be directed..
OMG, you finally get it. It IS the failure of the regulating agency (EPA). And they are finally doing something about it... what's the problem again?
i'm curious too,aarons,just when was it that they stopped?or are you just "BLOWING SMOKE"? i for one agree with malfoy,for which i've never done,but for the sake and safety of these kids.the school board can find another place to build marsh fork elementary,and build a school that isn't around any of these mines.but for massey to use the "tax" factor is crap.i've said they would have paid them anyway.you haven't shown any links or proof that they have, in fact, stopped polluting.i've gone back and read on some of the fines that goals has paid ,and some where even fines pertaining to the slurry pond itself,allowing erosion on the walls that hold it into place.i'll see if i can ask ken ward to help me out on this,so you can have your proof.
That my friend is a failure of the regulating agency and is where your wrath should be directed. And before you respond that they've all been bought, if you have proof of that then I would suggest a call to an FBI office near you.
And, as violations continue, punishments should increase. Aaron, you and Mustang are putting words in people's mouths. No one said they haven't been punished. But, look at the punishment. It obviously hasn't been punishment enough to get them to quit violating the rules and laws.
Mustang, are you really suggesting that someone said that coal companies are the only ones breaking the law? Did anyone here say Obama is our next king (I presume you're talking about after King W). For one, I broke the law on the way to work this morning (speeding), and Obama is not any kind of king.
Where most people miss the whole picture (from being herded through the pasture [sheep]), is that presidents and politicians on both sides are evil, and are pawns of big money. Money runs this country... not politicians.
I'm curious, do you think that Massey should build this school because they've had mines that have violated the rules in the past?
Or are you saying ajf can post days worth of documents where there were violations but no punishment whatsoever?
Are you insinuating that there is a threshold of breaking the law that should be allowed? Only after breaking it this much should they be held accountable?
If ajf has 20 or 30 minutes to put into it, he/she could paste days worth of documents to show how many times coal companies have been fined for breaking the law in this state.
So only in state coal corporations are justified in obtaining maxium profit?
Now if you have documentation or a link to evidence that Goals Coal processing center is breaking the law or polluting to the point that they should be forced to contribute to building a school, I'll give it a read. Until then, you're blowing smoke.
BUSH is gone , the BUSH EPA is gone , the BUSH rubber-stamp Congress is gone , the BUSH Dept. of Interior is gone , and the BUSH OSM and Dept. of Energy is gone .
" CHANGE " .... BASED ON SCIENCE , AND .... THE FEDERAL LAW !!!
According to The Sierra Club ,
which has constant contact with the The U.S. Dept.of Energy ,
" Mountaintop Removal " coal from Appalachia contributes approximately ( 4 ) - ( FOUR ) percent
to the actual U.S. electricity generation .
The ABSENCE of Mountaintop Removal coal in our nations coal - fired power plants would not even be noticed .
The " lights " and all our computers would still be on ….
as well as all residential , governmental , industrial , and commercial electricity in the United States .
MOUNTAINTOP REMOVAL COAL MINING IS NOT , OR EVER HAS BEEN .... ACTUALLY NEEDED .
IT IS ALL ABOUT ABSOLUTE MAXIMUM " PROFIT " FOR " OUTSIDER " COAL CORPORATIONS .
IT " DOES NOT " KEEP THE LIGHTS ON !!
aarons,your going to sit back and tell me that they haven't broken the laws and poluted.where in the world do you live,fairytell land?even i have never claimed that,and i have been known to make comments upholding the coal industry.i've even gone as far as showing where the people living up prenter hollow need to clean up their areas before pointing fingers at just massey.but you want me to believe that line of bull?even manchin has overstepped his bounds when it comes to taking up for coal companies.fighting for jobs is one thing,but for him to blatantly come out like this.he'll never make it into a congressional seat.unless of course massey and others buy it for him.
I have rules at work. I have to show up on time. I have to take a certain length of time for lunch. Etc. etc. If I broke these rules, it wouldn't have taken them decades to fire me.
He sullied the reputation of WVU (which is good for Marshall grads).
He could not generate morale if he had to. How many times has he walked through departments and thanked the employees for a good job? He wouldn’t want to get his hands dirty. This is called getting in the trenches. This has been the standard management principle since the late 1970’s. It’s called management by inclusion. WV is always behind the times, but by 30 years? How about the termination of employees for doing right? How much has this cost us after the fact?
Someone please provide a positive. I can’t find one.
He has performed exactly as anyone paying attention expected. He has enriched his friends and family while building his resume for Congress. Nothing more and nothing less.
Trasportation to markets world wide just does not exist in our state unless you are on the border, steel is all but gone, chemical have left all but Dow and Dupont...what will be left? I know, move the people out to the borders and make the entire middle of the state a national park, THAT would do it>
"Can't serve God and mammon. Your idea of prosperous is different than mine- you think it is all about who dies with the most stuff. God thinks different."
So I did not invoke God - YOUR SIDE DID. And what makes you think I was bragging? I have some familiarity with the Bible, though by no means am I as pious as you. But what I understand of it is that it is first and foremost the story of God's redemption of fallen man though Jesus Christ. I didn't realize that there was an equally important message, or any message at all, that we are not to use our ingenuity to extract the resources he left us in the safest and most efficient manner possible. Also, (I get confused about this end of times stuff) isn't there supposed to be a new heaven and a new earth? The mountains aren't supposed to last forever.
In other words, what did you do to correct the situation? Yet you complain that others did not correct.
It did get corrected, no thanks to individuals such as yourself. Charity and welfare come in many forms. Sometimes it goes to those so wrapped up in their own world that they fail to realize when a situation “will” impact them.
Joe, do you think you have done such a great job that you can start telling others how to do theirs? Do you think your agency can do any better? I would say you have failed miserably at your job, but that would be incorrect. You have succeeded to the max at “your” job, it just happens not to be the one you are paid “by us” to do. Think you need to look in the mirror real hard.
Perhaps if Democrats were a little more skilled at passing legislation they could have gotten something done.
After all, Republicans got 2 major war spending bills and all they had to trade was an unconstitutional minimum wage increase and a few weeks of added unemployment.
Even now, with a veto proof Congress, you guys are still struggling to get any meaningful legislation passed.
So either Democrats are stupid or incompetent, which is it?
No tea leaves or tarot cards or "secret conspiracy" here: He's doing what he said he'd do.
And WV may not get wealthy because of what the federal EPA is doing.
But impoverished WV families will be sure to pony up our children to the recruiters for Obama's "standing army".
And paper it over the indignity with stars and stripes,and national pledges and patriotic jingoism.
You'll take our children but you won't take our coal?
WV should secede.
He didn't actually make the claim that you posted , I searched back to 9-15-09 and found the post .
Posted By: Rational (4:50pm 09-15-2009) Report Abuse
I go to church with people who derive their livelihood directly from MTR. Anyway, we give at least 10% of out "stuff" to God's work. He doesn't seem to mind how we got our money. Which god do you worship - Gaia?
http://transportation.house.gov/Media/File/Full%20Committee/Stagnant%20Waters%202008%20Clean%20Water%20Act%20Report.pdf
Here is the correction:
http://yosemite.epa.gov/opa/admpress.nsf/bd4379a92ceceeac8525735900400c27/6944ea38b888dd03852573d3005074ba!OpenDocument
Under the Bush Republican Congress it never made it out of committee , and even if it had passed both House & Senate the past 2 years , everyone knew Bush would veto it .
http://www.ilovemountains.org/clean-water-protection-act/
The date of the article you posted truth is May 8, 2002
My questions for you are why didn't Congress do something about it then, why didn't regulatory agencies do something about it then and why has neither done anything in the past 7 1/2 years?
I await your response.
Seems to me that according to the American way, one is innocent until proven guilty thus the burden of proof lies with the state, just as it does with you and the accusations you make rwc.
Or do you not believe in the American way?
So , I will address a comment you posted about 2 weeks ago on another Gazette MTR article .
You proudly stated , ( actually bragged ) that you went to church with numerous people who " derived " their paycheck from Mountaintop Removal . I'm sure you'll remember , if not , I'll go back and copy and paste it for you .
Have YOU , or any of your Mountain-Topping church buddies , or any other Mountain-Topper who has ever invoked GOD into the debate .... ever actually read The Holy Bible , or have any idea what is in it ?
You are in for a shocking , well deserved awakening .
" And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come , and the time of the dead , that they should be judged ,
and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets , and to the saints , and them that fear thy name , small and great ;
and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth. "
REVELATION 11 : 18 - ( KING JAMES VERSION )
"MTR hasn't only destroyed the environment (or as you say, a few "ordinary mountains" which being that I respect the work of the Creator think is an extraordinarily callous statement) but it's undermined the unions, eliminated jobs and sent even more money out of state."
Unions need to be undermined. They've served their purpose, but now they're only a drag on the economy. MTR has not eliminated jobs - it has transferred them to support industries.
Now, which creations does our Creator love more? His mountains or the ones made in His image? The height of callous disrespect, perhaps downright wicked, is for you hysterical extremists to sacrifice the livelihoods of His people for the sake of His mountains.
And God, I'm sure, could care less which state people keep their money in.
http://tinyurl.com/mhw4zz
http://www.ilovemountains.org/clean-water-protection-act/
Bush Administration Told By Congress and Court: Changing Environmental Rules to Allow Waste Dumps in Waters Violates the Clean Water Act
May 8, 2002
"Today, both the legislative and judicial branches of government came out in opposition to what the executive branch did to the Clean Water Act on May 3," said Joan Mulhern, senior legislative counsel for Earthjustice. "This should send a strong message to the Bush administration -- and the public -- that the administration's attempt to undermine the Clean Water Act is not only wrong, it is illegal."
http://www.earthjustice.org/news/press/002/bush_administration_told_by_congress_and_court_changing_environmental_rules_to_allow_waste_dumps_in_waters_violates_the_clean_water_act.html
The EPA has no authority over the US Army Corps of Engineers. All they can do is take a look at the permits and if they feel they harm waterways, deny them. If the company is in compliance with current law, the EPA has no choice but to issue the permits.
mike fink,show me the companies that are playing by the rules they were given.out of the companies you name,how many have been fined for not playing by these"rules".
However, also know that coal pays the bills for all the people that sit in the hills and collect generation after generation of welfare, ( of which I have seen plenty of also) and also pays for the counties in WV that the state is the largest employer, ie schools, state road, HHS offices and prisons...change the laws, don't chastise the companies because they play by the rules they are given!
ALthough, I always wonder why liberals such as yourself believe that your view is the only view and no one else is entitled....are you that smart??
Anyhow =)
As I said:
Is it acceptable to destroy streams- period?
What gives anyone the right to kill miles of waterway, choked with orange run-off, and just go on their merry way?
These orange streams are all over our state, and I don't think the people who own the land these flow through were ever given a vote on if they wanted those streams poisoned. The coal/chemical companies just keep chugging along, without the worry of stewardship or accountability (that stresses the bottom line).
It's wrong. It's always been wrong. It will continue to be wrong.
I'm sorry if satellite businesses suffer if coal goes under, but you're just as complicit in the rape of our state as the large companies. Sorry you're tangled up in it, but it's still wrong and it needs to stop.
Profits are not more important than the world I leave my children.
And all this we do serves an even nobler purpose than what you call our "greed" (economists call it profit motive). We are helping to meet our nation's, and the world's, demand for cheap energy so we can all grow our economies and raise the standard of living for all.
And your nobler purpose is - what? Oh, you want to keep some ordinary mountains, well outside any area tourists care to visit, from being flattened, you want to preserve a few "streams" (God knows why), and you want to stop the "killing and poisioning" MTR is responsible for (urban legends). So what if 1000's of jobs are lost (your neighbors) and energy prices go up?
I agree with the folks that say West Virginians are their own worst enemy as they trash everything around their property and neighborhood, but remember back (not so far either) to the slates that we the people get election whisky for, a few dollars, etc from the politicians for your vote. All these things must change if you want the state to change.
I personally believe that this issue will go by the wayside as Obama is intent on making coal illegal to use or so expensive through either his cap and trade
legislation or if it fails, he has already issued the EPA the authority to regulate carbon dioxide and that will kill it all!
You just don't understand.
Balance.
A small cadre of extremists on the verge of shutting down an entire industry. God bless America.
As for this article, while I don't agree with the governor that the EPA has overstepped their boundaries, I do hope the EPA will use this permitting process as a means to ensure safe mining is being done and not as a vehicle to eliminate MTM. They are a regulatory agency and that is not part of their job responsibility.
If they are going to set new regulations and guidelines, then they need to do so quickly. Private industry has invested millions into extracting the coal out of those mountains and they should not be left trying to second guess what the EPA is going to do. The EPA should clarify the situation posthaste. If not, coal companies will idle mines, which will come back to bite us all in the long run.
I am going to send every exec for Massey a bottle of water from Prenter.
He is one of the worst governors I can remember, and I can remember back a long time. Lord help us if he worms his way into the Senate.
he really sounds like he is concerned with the jobs in this state.REALLY,All the while Rogue corporations are giving hefty donations so he can live in the lap of luxury in his manchin while men,women and children as well as yes,workers are sick ,dying and suffering from the poisons that these corporations he is backing,are putting into our Rivers,Streams,properties,and homes.
Gov. Manchin, for one, understands how important coal mining, including mountaintop removal mining, is to the State of West Virginia.
How come you coal people are whining when you have a governor who is whining for you? King Joe has proven where his loyalty is, and it certainly is not to the citizens of this state.
July 2004
Internal government documents initially obtained under the Freedom of Information Act reveal that senior Bush administration officials at the U.S. Department of the Interior intentionally disregarded extensive scientific studies conducted by five separate federal and state agencies over four years in preparation of an environmental impact statement (EIS) on mountaintop removal mining in Appalachia.
Scientists working for various federal agencies have documented a wide range of enormously destructive environmental impacts from this mining technique.
http://www.ucsusa.org/scientific_integrity/abuses_of_science/case_studies_and_evidence/mountaintop-removal-mining.html
BUSH is gone , the BUSH EPA is gone , the BUSH rubber-stamp Congress is gone , the BUSH Dept. of Interior is gone , and the BUSH Dept. of Energy is gone .
" CHANGE " .... BASED ON SCIENCE , AND.... THE FEDERAL LAW !!!
According to The Sierra Club ,
which has constant contact with the The U.S. Dept.of Energy ,
" Mountaintop Removal " coal from Appalachia contributes approximately ( 4 ) - ( FOUR ) percent
to the actual U.S. electricity generation .
The ABSENCE of Mountaintop Removal coal in our nations coal - fired power plants would not even be noticed .
The " lights " and all our computers would still be on ….
as well as all residential , governmental , industrial , and commercial electricity in the United States .
MOUNTAINTOP REMOVAL COAL MINING IS NOT , OR EVER HAS BEEN .... ACTUALLY NEEDED .
IT IS ALL ABOUT ABSOLUTE MAXIMUM " PROFIT " FOR " OUTSIDER " COAL CORPORATIONS .
IT " DOES NOT " KEEP THE LIGHTS ON !!!
The Fed. EPA has the authority to enforce the Clean Water Act. I’m happy that they are doing their job. I hope the Fed. Justice Dept. takes a good look at you next. You haven’t done anything to bring new jobs to our state. Your self interest in your coal investments is more important to you than diversifying our economy. You are out bragging about a small 30 megawatt experimental coal fired plant in Germany as a way to justify the continued destruction of our mountains. Stop the sniveling, get to work, bring some new jobs to WV. MTR workers are less than 1% of our workforce. What about the other 99%?
gmhoover, why is it so bad that the coal companies are finally being asked to follow the law? is obama the devil for taking steps to make sure they do? you know what, don't even answer. i'm not even interested in your response. you're nothing more than a mouthpiece for the republican party. you don't even have your own opinion. are you michael agnello in disguise?
These people are cancers on our state.