October 30, 2009
The Charleston Gazette -- Fairness: Fox News fracas
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Teddy OC - regarding your observations about what Fox News does not report, is your point that the competition reports all, or most (or any) of Fox's stories, or is there a point?
Eliz - as you say, you are most definitely a good Christian. Perhaps the best. Keep up the good work. I forgive you too.
Taxpayer - I'd go for the $350/mo catastrophic plan with $10K deductible. You may have to sacrifice some of the nicer things in life you have become accustomed to, but don't say you can't afford it. Single and $38K a year? - you can afford it. I'd rather you eat rice and beans, give up cable, stop smoking, sell the fancy truck (or whatever) before you expect me to buy your health insurance. You are exhibiting what we conservatives call the "entitlement mentality".
Link for story about premature baby born 2 days too early & left to die because it would be against the rules to try to save Jayden.
& just why-in countries w/healthcare-so many citizens come to the US & use thousands, if not hundreds of thousands to purchase health care service? Answer -'cause they'd be dead shortly if they stayed in their own country & waited to get treatment.
Read - Infant Mortality Myths and Mantras
Michael Arnold Glueck, M.D., and Robert J. Cihak, M.D., The Medicine Men
Statistics, even at their best, don't tell a whole story
http://archive.newsmax.com/archives/articles/2005/3/9/184540.shtml
For balance - read http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/7/21/93949/9072/752/554524
seems to contend that racial equality reason for infant mortality
personal story: 'Doctors told me it was against the rules to save my premature baby'
[url]Doctors left a premature baby to die because he was born two days too early, his devastated mother claim
trying to marginalized critics into silence (you name it)... and not from Fox but from the Los Angeles Times:
Democratic consultant says he got a warning from White House after appearing on Fox News
'We better not see you on again,' the strategist says he was told by a White House official. The White House communications director denies that officials urge such a boycott.
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-obama-fox8-2009nov08,0,507227.story?test=latestnews
Since Alan Mollahan now has a few MILLION$ maybe he will hire Teddy OC to be his #1 PR man.
Thanks to loudmouths like Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh and Sarah Palin, Owens' victory in New York's 23rd district gave us a critical vote for health care, indicating that the hard right is de-fanged.
60 Americans a day die for lack of health care access as the insurance lobby spends upwards of $1.4 million A DAY of your insurance premium money on those loudmouths to keep the present system in place
http://tinyurl.com/m2kmdx
Here's a HOT NEWS FLASH for you TeaParty RepubliCons: Screaming lies at the top of your lungs about "death panels", "socialism" and "pulling the plug on grandma" into a megaphone is NOT leadership.
The US infant mortality rate sank to 29th in the world as the GOP ran 2 wars outside the budget, yet now rightwingers are all suddenly PANICKING about running up the deficit
So I LOVE FoxNews, Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin for what they're doing to the GOP
Thanks to loudmouths like Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh and Sarah Palin, Owens' victory in New York's 23rd district gave us a critical vote for health care, indicating that the hard right is de-fanged.
60 Americans a day die for lack of health care access as the insurance lobby spends upwards of $1.4 million A DAY of your insurance premium money on those loudmouths to keep the present system in place
http://tinyurl.com/m2kmdx
Here's a HOT NEWS FLASH for you TeaParty RepubliCons: Screaming lies at the top of your lungs about "death panels", "socialism" and "pulling the plug on grandma" into a megaphone is NOT leadership.
The US infant mortality rate sank to 29th in the world as the GOP ran 2 wars outside the budget, yet now rightwingers are all suddenly PANICKING about running up the deficit
So I LOVE FoxNews, Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin for what they're doing to the GOP
The Gazette makes NO effort to provide balance. Its "news" pages are loaded with opinion (even the headlines are skewed to the left). The "reporters" -- like Ward -- violate EVERY established ethic by pretending to be reporters while writing inflamatory blogs and censoring even the comments section of their stories and blogs to block those with differing opinions.
I had someone call Friday to ask if I wanted to subscribe to the Gazette. I told them I had NO interest in subscribing to Pravda. I urge everyone to tell the Gazette "No thanks!" when they get this call.
Oh, and I urge all the Tea Party people, the coal miners and others to call the Gazette's advertisers and tell them you won't support them if they continue to support left-wing propaganda sheets.
I actually feel the same way and I forgive you
http://tinyurl.com/m2kmdx
So I'm actually relieved that rightwing pundits are now running the GOP into the ditch
The US infant mortality rate has sunk to 29th in the world as the GOP ran 2 wars outside the budget, yet now rightwingers are all suddenly "PANICKING" about running up the deficit
Here's a HOT NEWS FLASH for you TeaParty RepubliCons: Screaming lies at the top of your lungs about "death panels", "socialism" and "pulling the plug on grandma" into a megaphone is NOT leadership
GIMME A BREAK
House Minority "Leader" John Boehner (R-OrangeFaceLush) doesn't even know the difference between the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence
http://tinyurl.com/yhwowxa
The GOP doesn't even know what's in the GOP's health care proposal http://tinyurl.com/yzbex7y
At least Teddy's handlers are getting their money's worth on this story. :>)
Thing is, it still doesn't change that fact that whether it's Fox or Faux, it's still NEWS.
Teddy One Citizen is fighting hard to preserve his livelihood.
If conservatives and/or constitutionists gain control and begin cutting and eliminating those expensively wasteful expenditures and funding for government approved programs ole Teddy OC and probably his wife will out of a job and thus out of the “feeding trough”.
Thus, it is imperative that Teddy One Citizen be touting the praises for the “spend crazy” Democrats by boudmouthing those who oppose them. Take away the Grant monies and OC is gone with it.
Taxpayer, it is you and your family that is the problem. And that problem is, you are willing to work and you want to provide nice things for yourself and your family.
Now iffen you would move into a decrepit house or trailer, work part-time 10 hours per month, birth or adopt a couple younguns and plead “poormouth” the State would come looking for you to “sign you up” on SSI, Food Stamps, ADC, Welfare payments, free School lunches, clothing vouchers, free College tuition and give you a Free Health/Dental Care Card. And apply for Earned Income Credit and get several thousand dollars each January.
Red Dragon 70, the above post was quite “out-of-character” for you, was it not?
Was that not a subtle request disguised as a compliment due to your fear that Eliz just might remove those rose colored glasses from her eyes and thus be able to “see” yours and other like postings for what they actually are?
YUP, RD, it wouldn’t be long fore Eliz was singing that song by Johnny Nash, to wit:
“I can see clearly now the rain has gone
I can see all obstacles in my way
Gone are the dark clouds that had me blind
It's going to be a bright, bright sunshiny day“
The CBO found that the new GOP health care bill would have little effect on nearly 46 million uninsured Americans:
By 2019, the number of nonelderly people without health insurance would be reduced by about 3 million relative to current law, leaving about 52 million nonelderly residents uninsured. The share of legal nonelderly residents with insurance coverage in 2019 would be about 83%, roughly in line with the current share. CBO and JCT estimate that enacting the amendment’s insurance coverage provisions would increase deficits by $8 billion over the 2010–2019 period
The CBO found that the Dems’ bill would cover 36 million more Americans and “reduce the number of nonelderly Americans without coverage to around 18 million over the next decade.” Yet, a spokesperson for House Minority Leader Boehner (R-OH) falsely claimed their alternative “will cover millions more Americans” than the Democrats’ bill.
http://tinyurl.com/LYING-REPUBS
http://cboblog.cbo.gov/?p=389
POINT FIVE PERCENT.
The reason for Repub ignorance is apparently because Fox never reported that states which have adopted tort reform have failed to significantly lower health care costs
FACT: When Texas capped non economic medical malpractice damages to $250,000 in 2003, most conservatives argued that it would free doctors from having to prescribe unnecessary treatment. It never happened. And according to the Dartmouth research on disparities in health care spending, many Texan doctors are still prescribing aggressive treatments that don’t improve outcomes. And last I checked Texas was still at the top of the list of high-spending states!
http://tinyurl.com/yhv877d
"The CBO estimates that implementing a typical package of tort reform proposals nationwide would reduce total US health care spending by about 0.5 percent"
http://cboblog.cbo.gov/?p=389
whoopdie freakin' doo
As I said before, that old canard about "lawyers" and "tort reform" didn't cut it for McCain and it still won't for pacaderm. Most folks now realize that the GOP raises a lot of campaign money by promising big businesses that they'll de-regulate everything (which would let companies write casualties from their defective products off as a "risk assessment" statistic). Then Republicans promise "tort reform", which would put limits on how much you could sue the same companies for killing your kids with their unregulated greed
Even as Fox shrinks, the GOP becomes more and more of an endangered species
http://tinyurl.com/FOX-SHRINKING
http://tinyurl.com/Shrinking-The-Elephant
The CBO found that the GOP bill would have little effect on nearly 46 million uninsured Americans:
By 2019, the number of nonelderly people without health insurance would be reduced by about 3 million relative to current law, leaving about 52 million nonelderly residents uninsured. The share of legal nonelderly residents with insurance coverage in 2019 would be about 83%, roughly in line with the current share. CBO and JCT estimate that enacting the amendment’s insurance coverage provisions would increase deficits by $8 billion over the 2010–2019 period
The CBO found that the Dems’ bill would cover 36 million more Americans and “reduce the number of nonelderly Americans without coverage to around 18 million over the next decade.” Yet, a spokesperson for House Minority Leader Boehner (R-OH) falsely claimed their alternative “will cover millions more Americans” than the Democrats’ bill.
http://tinyurl.com/LYING-REPUBS
The little "tort reform" WV enacted reduced physicians insurance and helped stop the flow of doctors out of the state. Lack of tort reform is not a Republican payoff, but a blatant payoff to the # 1 campaign contributer to the Democratic Party.....the trial lawyer. Funny thing you mention common sense.
We will see who has it.
Now post twenty more repeats
http://tinyurl.com/LYING-REPUBS
It's also likely that you'll never see anyone on Fox call out Rep. Michelle Bachmann (R-Death Panels) for being the liar and fraud she truly is when she claimed on Fox "this absolutely outstanding grouping of people that we had today at the Capitol. This is organic. It was a meet up. It was spontaneous."
http://tinyurl.com/yguyh5e
No one will catch Fox report that Rep. Todd Akin (R-MO) doesn't even know the Pledge of Allegiance or Virginia Foxx for being a nutcase for stating that Obamacare poses a worse threat than "any terrorist in any country"
Or that House Minority leader Boehner (R-Drunk) doesn't even know the difference between the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence!
http://tinyurl.com/Gaping-Orange-Piehole
Fortunately, even as Fox News shrinks, Pacaderm represents more and more of an endangered species.
http://tinyurl.com/FOX-SHRINKING
http://tinyurl.com/Shrinking-The-Elephant
I'm burning up becasue we, as a country, can never, ever, cut spending. You just observed as we spent close to 800 billion and did not read the bill.
In all honesty you have my concern for your family. Do you understand that we spend a thousand times more money, paying for votes, than it would take to provide you with a major tax credit to cover insurance?
Why can't you take 100% of what you pay for an insurance policy off your taxes?
Why can't we reduce, substantially, the cost of insurance by putting a leash on the lawyers and opening up competition.
I'll tell you why. OC and the Democrats.....a bad name for a rock group or political party.
I went out and bought all the term life insurance I could afford, so if I fall gravely ill and languish in a hospital, my family wouldn't loose their home to the healthcare debt. If I were to fall ill I hope I pass quickly. Until you walk a day in the shoes of a working stiff with no insurance don't give me left wing or right wing talking points... IT FALLS ON DEAF EARS in this household. Give me some relief, not grief.
I don't have to prove anything to someone who states most Americans are uninsured and those people who DON"T have insurance pay high premiums.
A 5 year old would see through that. So go ahead and post 90 more times from your insane, bankrupt, left wing blog.
The CBO found that the GOP bill would have little effect on nearly 46 million uninsured Americans:
By 2019, the number of nonelderly people without health insurance would be reduced by about 3 million relative to current law, leaving about 52 million nonelderly residents uninsured. The share of legal nonelderly residents with insurance coverage in 2019 would be about 83%, roughly in line with the current share. CBO and JCT estimate that enacting the amendment’s insurance coverage provisions would increase deficits by $8 billion over the 2010–2019 period
The CBO found that the Dems’ bill would cover 36 million more Americans and “reduce the number of nonelderly Americans without coverage to around 18 million over the next decade.” Yet, a spokesperson for House Minority Leader Boehner (R-OH) falsely claimed their alternative “will cover millions more Americans” than the Democrats’ bill.
http://tinyurl.com/LYING-REPUBS
The FACT is, illegal alien coverage was also included in the Republican health care proposal in the form of offshore "sweat shop" coverage!
http://tinyurl.com/Sweatshop-Neocons
Their bill explicitly expands the definition of ‘State’ to include not just D.C. and Puerto Rico, which makes some sense in context, but adds BY NAME the Virgin Islands, Guam, American Samoa and Jack Abramoff’s favorite client-the Northern Marianas home of the ‘Made in the USA’ Chinese-owned close to slave labor sweatshops.
Gee I'd be willing to bet THAT's a news item we'll never see on Fox.
Doesn't Rupert Murdoch programming what you don't know creep you out even just a tiny bit?
http://tinyurl.com/UN-American-Murdoch
And pac, are you really a Republican, or just someone posing as a sick sardonic caricature of one?
That tired number is the one that is trotted out at every Democratic Party fundraiser, speech and interview.....most notably not questioned by your press.
The least you could do is not blame Republicans for your propoganda and lies in this particular case.
Your almighty government can take, take and take and that's OK with you.
Your government can spend 34 billion a year on useless agencies like the Energy Dept, but just cannot bring themselves to slash it so as to make health care somewhat less expensive. Guess they got a lot of union members at the Energy Department.
Your lawyers fund your party with millions of campaign cash to see that our (we all pay, by the way) insurance rates are outrageous. But that probably doesn't faze you come election time.
I don't care to be on medicaid sir, because it's a sorry system......one that the libtards want all of us on. No Thank You.
I want the sorry leeches that think my money is theirs for Energy Depts. lawsuits, owning car companies, owning banks, taking 50% of everything I make and save..........GONE
http://tinyurl.com/Sweatshop-Neocons
Their bill explicitly expands the definition of ‘State’ to include not just D.C. and Puerto Rico, which makes some sense in context, but adds BY NAME the Virgin Islands, Guam, American Samoa and Jack Abramoff’s favorite client-the Northern Marianas home of the ‘Made in the USA’ Chinese-owned close to slave labor sweatshops.”
Gee I'd be willing to bet that's a news item we'll never see on Fox.
Doesn't Rupert Murdoch programming what you know start to creep you out even just a little bit?
http://tinyurl.com/UN-American-Murdoch
You didn't shoot anyone yesterday did you?
If we use the 46 million number you just used and subtract the 9 million illegals, isn’t 37 million uninsured too high for the biggest economic engine in the free world? I lost my job in 2006 and have been a self employed contractor since then. Single coverage for me is $750 per month. I am a healthy 50 year old male. The best plan I could afford was a $350 10k deductible catastrophic. I chose neither. I just pay as I go for doctor visits and pray everyday that I don't have a major health issue that requires hospitalization. I'm sick and tired of "chatter" online about healthcare. It's really a "have-have not" issue at this point. 99% of those opposed to health care reform have good insurance, and 99% of those for reform don't. Do the math, we uninsured don't have a snowballs chance in Hades of getting anything done to help us get affordable care for our families. I DO have a dog in this fight.
The CBO found that the GOP bill would have little effect on nearly 46 million uninsured Americans:
By 2019, the number of nonelderly people without health insurance would be reduced by about 3 million relative to current law, leaving about 52 million nonelderly residents uninsured. The share of legal nonelderly residents with insurance coverage in 2019 would be about 83%, roughly in line with the current share. CBO and JCT estimate that enacting the amendment’s insurance coverage provisions would increase deficits by $8 billion over the 2010–2019 period
The CBO found that the Dems’ bill would cover 36 million more Americans and “reduce the number of nonelderly Americans without coverage to around 18 million over the next decade.” Yet, a spokesperson for House Minority Leader Boehner (R-OH) falsely claimed their alternative “will cover millions more Americans” than the Democrats’ bill.
http://tinyurl.com/LYING-REPUBS
The Marine Corp Times revealed that Sen. Tom Coburn (R-OK) has placed holds on several veterans benefits bills because he wants to divert money from unspent American Recovery and Reinvestment Act (ARRA) funds (also known as the stimulus package money).
http://tinyurl.com/yzkrcmg
"Thirteen major military and veterans groups have joined forces to try to force one senator — Republican Tom Coburn of Oklahoma — to release a hold that he has placed on a major veterans benefits bill
Coburn has been identified by Senate aides as the lawmaker preventing consideration of S 1963, the Veterans’ Caregiver and Omnibus Health Benefits Act of 2009, by using an informal but legal practice of putting a hold on a bill."
more here
http://ga3.org/campaign/coburn
Past underfunding of the VA and our troops by Republicans in lockstep has been shocking almost beyond belief:
http://www.nsnetwork.org/node/1453
There are not 46 million uninsured Americans, libtard. Your number includes 9 million uninsured illegal aliens.
Who do you think you are dealing with here.....liberals, who watch MSNBC?
"Democratic Support Above Majority Level
A second measure of party support -- which adds independents who say they "lean" toward one party or the other into that party's total -- also shows 2008 to have been a banner year for the Democratic Party. Last year, 52% of Americans identified as Democrats or said they leaned to the Democratic Party, compared with 40% who identified with or leaned to the Republican Party. That is the best showing for the Democrats -- in terms of both the percentage of Democratic supporters and their advantage over Republicans -- since Gallup began regularly tracking this measure of party support in 1991."
http://tinyurl.com/Shrinking-The-Elephant
"78% of Bush supporters who watch Fox News said they thought the United States had found evidence of a direct link to al-Qaeda, while 50% of Bush supporters who rely on NPR/PBS thought so."
Note that the study revealed certain citizens are far more likely to be duped by Rupert Murdoch's Neocon propaganda than others:
"Conversely, 48% of Fox viewers who said they would support a Democrat believed that such evidence had been found. But none of the Democrat-backers who relied on NPR/PBS believed it."
http://tinyurl.com/Fox-LIARS
The CBO found that the GOP bill would have little effect on nearly 46 million uninsured Americans:
By 2019, the number of nonelderly people without health insurance would be reduced by about 3 million relative to current law, leaving about 52 million nonelderly residents uninsured. The share of legal nonelderly residents with insurance coverage in 2019 would be about 83 percent, roughly in line with the current share. CBO and JCT estimate that enacting the amendment’s insurance coverage provisions would increase deficits by $8 billion over the 2010–2019 period
The CBO found that the Dems’ bill would cover 36 million more Americans and “reduce the number of nonelderly Americans without coverage to around 18 million over the next decade.” Yet, a spokesperson for House Minority Leader Boehner (R-OH) falsely claimed their alternative “will cover millions more Americans” than the Democrats’ bill.
http://tinyurl.com/LYING-REPUBS
http://tinyurl.com/LYING-REPUBS
It's also likely that you'll never see anyone on Fox call out Rep. Michelle Bachmann (R-Death Panels) for being the liar and fraud she truly is when she claimed on Fox "this absolutely outstanding grouping of people that we had today at the Capitol. This is organic. It was a meet up. It was spontaneous."
http://tinyurl.com/yguyh5e
You'll also not likely see Fox report that Rep. Todd Akin (R-MO) doesn't know the Pledge of Allegiance or Virginia Foxx for being a nutcase for stating that Obamacare poses a worse threat than "any terrorist in any country"
Or that House Minority leader Boehner (R-Drunk) doesn't even know the difference between the Constitution and the Declaration of Independence!http://tinyurl.com/Gaping-Orange-Piehole
It's amazing what a year combined with an additional 2 to 3 trillion dollars added to the national debt in less then a year will do for those numbers.
While more still self identify as democrats then Republicans 30% to 26%, nearly 40% identify as independents.
Of those independents, 35%, up from 29% in 08 identify as conservative while 43% identify as moderate. Only 18% of independents, down from 20% in 08 identify as liberals.
Among all Americans, 77% identify as conservative (40%) or moderate (37%). Only 20% of all Americans identify as liberal.
Considering a majority of all Americans now view President Obama’s policies as liberal, that’s not good news for the left wing of the Democratic Party, no matter how you spin it.
Unlike our paid bloggers, numbers don't lie.
http://www.gallup.com/poll/123854/Conservatives-Maintain-Edge-Top-Ideological-Group.aspx
The overwhelming majority of Americans have insurance.
Those who do not, we call them the "uninsured" do NOT pay premiums, even higher ones.
I think it's also pretty much a consensus, at least among us with some common sense, that not only will many of these stories not appear on Fox, as I proved with the Sen. Colburn story, they won't likely appear on and of the main stream media outlets either.
As such, is there anyone posting, other then the paid bloggers, who sees a point to posting comment after comment of what we won't see and where we will not see it?
Don't be so sensitive. Folks read your posts and if they like them can read them over and over and over.
Now, if you will, please answer my question from your post.
Is there an "overwhelming number of uninsured Americans?"
If there are how is it possible they pay higher premiums?
You have just got to improve your propoganda verbage.
The CBO found that the GOP bill would have little effect on nearly 46 million uninsured Americans:
By 2019, the number of nonelderly people without health insurance would be reduced by about 3 million relative to current law, leaving about 52 million nonelderly residents uninsured. The share of legal nonelderly residents with insurance coverage in 2019 would be about 83 percent, roughly in line with the current share. CBO and JCT estimate that enacting the amendment’s insurance coverage provisions would increase deficits by $8 billion over the 2010–2019 period
The CBO found that the Dems’ bill would cover 36 million more Americans and “reduce the number of nonelderly Americans without coverage to around 18 million over the next decade.” Yet, a spokesperson for House Minority Leader Boehner (R-OH) falsely claimed their alternative “will cover millions more Americans” than the Democrats’ bill.
http://tinyurl.com/LYING-REPUBS
BTW ThinkProgress provides credible links to virtually all their headlines. Plus, if they mess up reporting a story (which they seldom do), they actually go to the trouble of publicizing that they screwed up. Unlike your favorite news sources Fox and Pat Robertson.
And hey Blayne your own words "paint you". You posted the perfect example of race-baiting before the election so don't blame me for being shocked enough to have revisited it
Posted By: Blayne (10:03am 11-06-2008)
"The Gazette and the rest of the liberal elite only like black people who have not strayed from the Liberal Plantation. Freedom of thought is an anathema to liberals."
http://tinyurl.com/la3sta
Not too long ago pacaderm tried to prove that Obama was a racist by quoting Juan Williams. But after Williams denied ever calling Obama a racist by deriding Glenn Beck, it became quite evident where pacaderm gets his wacky ideas.
The Congressional Budget Office has concluded that the overwhelming majority of Americans would remain uninsured and continue paying higher premiums under the Republicans’ health care alternative[/b].
http://tinyurl.com/ygl2f2r
It's also likely that you'll never see anyone on Fox call out Rep. Michelle Bachmann R-Death Panels) for being the liar and fraud she truly is when she claimed on Fox "this absolutely outstanding grouping of people that we had today at the Capitol. This is organic. It was a meet up. It was spontaneous."
http://tinyurl.com/yguyh5e
By the way rwc: Read it over again, and this time slowly because your sidekick simply confirmed everything I posted about Coburn and FoxNews.
EVERYTHING
The Congressional Budget Office concluded that the overwhelming majority of Americans would either be uninsured or else pay higher premiums under the Republicans’ health care alternative[/b].
http://tinyurl.com/ygl2f2r
It's also likely that you'll never see anyone on Fox call out Rep. Michelle Bachmann R-Death Panels) for being the liar and fraud she truly is when she claimed on Fox "this absolutely outstanding grouping of people that we had today at the Capitol. This is organic. It was a meet up. It was spontaneous."
http://tinyurl.com/yguyh5e
You'll also not likely see Fox report that Rep. Todd Akin (R-MO) apparently doesn't know the Pledge of Allegiance because he sure screwed it up when leading the anti-health care protesters on Capitol Hill
http://tinyurl.com/yzkxwfu
or that rep. Virginia Fox (R-nutcase) believes Obamacare is a greater threat to our country than “any terrorist in any country".
"Democratic Support Above Majority Level
A second measure of party support -- which adds independents who say they "lean" toward one party or the other into that party's total -- also shows 2008 to have been a banner year for the Democratic Party. Last year, 52% of Americans identified as Democrats or said they leaned to the Democratic Party, compared with 40% who identified with or leaned to the Republican Party. That is the best showing for the Democrats -- in terms of both the percentage of Democratic supporters and their advantage over Republicans -- since Gallup began regularly tracking this measure of party support in 1991."
http://tinyurl.com/Shrinking-The-Elephant
Please don't mess with OC. He has some copying re-posting disorder.
Certainly we can talk about racism, then and now. Should we start with Lincoln or Douglas? Do you wish to include your hero, WEB? How about Louis "The lip" Farrakan?
Some more Democrat racists that leftists never can recall.
George Wallace, Harry S (Chinamen and who?) Truman, The Reverand, Jesse (Hymie Town) Jackson, Malcome X (until he saw the light and it was time to murder him), Cynthia McKinney, Barack Obama, Governor Faubus (Bill Clinton's boy). How about any modern Democrat who feels comfortable blaming "white America" How about we start blaming "black America" and listen to the howls from Red Dragon types?
BTW
Reagan was a union head and Democrat. The communists in Hollywood moved him right, not negroes oops..... blacks, ooops African Americans....oops people of color.
You do not like getting what you dish out each and every day.
I just wish I were
Free at last, Free at last, Thank GOD almighty I am free of race-baiting leeches at last!
I'd be interested in seeing your list.
Red Dragon.....you're too funny. I guess this was for the folks who have not read your posts that long......like Eliz.
Eliz, if I determined a US Senator not only was a former KKK member but actually formed the KKK in Sophia, I might think he was a racist and not support him.
If a president sat in a racist church ran by a flaming racist minister for 20 years I might think I spotted a racist.
If I saw Al Sharpton every time a "race issue" arose and knew he was nothing but jive-master (Twana Brawley and white boys) I might think I spotted a racist. As for you, you must not care about racism because the aforementioned are all leading Democrats and you and "your type" do not care about Democrats who are flaming racists.
As for "truth in the news" Was it Dan Rather that knowingly ran a false military document a few days before a presidential election to undermine said election?
How many elections has ACORN helped steal?
What is Charles "The Tax Pimp" Rangel up to?
You don't know, you don't care.
Adios Idiota
Should you want a roster of those who regularly post here and are having trouble differentiating between darkness and light, I'll be happy to give you a list.
But Eliz, if you don’t remove those rose colored glasses from your eyes you will never be able to distinguish the difference between good and evil and thus you will most likely be guilty of unknowingly perpetuating the evils that you dislike and detest. Asking your God for forgiveness for said will not atone for the harm caused to those people that believed the untruths you told them.
YADA, …. YADA, …. YADA, …… told the FBI what, RD?
"I didn't know the woman's name was Plame. I didn't know she was an operative," he says. He says he was reading Novak's newspaper column again, on Oct. 1, 2003, and "he said he was told by a non-partisan gun slinger." "I almost immediately called Secretary Powell and said, 'I'm sure that was me,'" Armitage says. Armitage immediately met with FBI agents investigating the leak. "I told them that I was the inadvertent leak," Armitage says. He didn't get a lawyer, however. http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2006/09/07/eveningnews/main1981433.shtml
Chaney should have been asking the FBI, ….. THEY KNEW, …. Chaney didn’t know.
What he didn't tell you is why Sen. Colburn put a hold on the bill.
Senate aides said the first-term senator has expressed concern about creating new and unfunded benefits and wants the opportunity to amend the measure.
The reason Sen. Colburn held the bill was to find funding for Veterans Health Care and Veterans’ Insurance and Benefits, the two bills that led to the creation of the S 1963.
His idea was to take unspent economic and job stimulus money to fund the bill for veterans but Senate Democrats don't want to let Colburn offer any amendments and set precedent in delaying unfunded spending bills.
And now boys and girls, you know the rest of the story.
Today, The Marine Corp Times revealed that Sen. Tom Coburn (R-OK) has placed holds on several veterans benefits bills because he wants to divert money from unspent American Recovery and Reinvestment Act (ARRA) funds (also known as the stimulus package money).
"Thirteen major military and veterans groups have joined forces to try to force one senator — Republican Tom Coburn of Oklahoma — to release a hold that he has placed on a major veterans benefits bill.
Coburn has been identified by Senate aides as the lawmaker preventing consideration of S 1963, the Veterans’ Caregiver and Omnibus Health Benefits Act of 2009, by using an informal but legal practice of putting a hold on a bill."
more here
http://ga3.org/campaign/coburn
Past underfunding of the VA and our troops by Republicans in lockstep has been shocking almost beyond belief:
http://www.nsnetwork.org/node/1453
But you'd never know it by watching FoxNews!
And of those Independents, that majority, ~70% identify as conservative, just as the majority of Americans do.
Perhaps that's why Bloomberg say incumbents should be 'afraid, very afraid', Gallup says the majority of Americans view President Obama's policies as 'mostly liberal' and the Boston Herald state President Obama is 'driving voters away from democrats.'
Perhaps that's why if you visit uba-liberal news site MSNBC you'll have a hard time finding information on any of the governorship races with the site except excuses like how the young didn't turn out or why the White House is distancing itself from the losers.
But instead of coming up with anything new, paid bloggers post the same tripe, trying to bring GWB into the conversation in their feeble attempt to distract you from the truth.
"78% of Bush supporters who watch Fox News said they thought the United States had found evidence of a direct link to al-Qaeda, while 50% of Bush supporters who rely on NPR/PBS thought so."
Note that the study revealed certain citizens are far more likely to be duped by Rupert Murdoch's Neocon propaganda than others:
"Conversely, 48% of Fox viewers who said they would support a Democrat believed that such evidence had been found. But none of the Democrat-backers who relied on NPR/PBS believed it."
http://tinyurl.com/Fox-LIARS
Especially when you mentioned our resident poster. I know the TRUTH about him. You're spot on.
Corporate stooge Dick Armey even threw his own handpicked candidate under the bus.
http://tinyurl.com/ylmw7an
Fact is that NY-23 handed Pelosi even more power!
I'd also bet that you won't see any reports of Rep. Tod Aikin (R-Teabag) fouling up the Pledge of Allegance on FoxNews today [urlhttp://tinyurl.com/yzkxwfu[/url]
Nor will Fox report that the Congressional Budget Office concluded that the overwhelming majority of Americans would remain uninsured and continue paying higher premiums under the Republicans’ health care alternative!
http://tinyurl.com/D-Baggers
One thing you will see, though, is rightwingers defending Fox's betrayal to journalistic standards by smearing other media, changing the subject, name-calling, and utter denial
http://tinyurl.com/yzxrcpy
BTW independent studies have revealed that citizens who relied on Fox News in the run-up to the Iraq war were far more likely to have had serious factual misconceptions
"78% of Bush supporters who watch Fox News said they thought the United States had found evidence of a direct link to al-Qaeda, while 50% of Bush supporters who rely on NPR/PBS thought so."
Note that the study revealed certain citizens are far more likely to be duped by Rupert Murdoch's Neocon propaganda than others:
"Conversely, 48% of Fox viewers who said they would support a Democrat believed that such evidence had been found. But none of the Democrat-backers who relied on NPR/PBS believed it."
http://tinyurl.com/Fox-LIARS
Presently, there are 435 Representatives with 257 Democrats and 178 Republicans. Of the 257, 56 are a coalition of conservative Blue Dog Democrats and without them, the Democrats do not have a majority.
In the Senate, there are 58 Democrat Senators with Joe Lieberman and Bernie Sanders officially listed as Independent, but usually caucus with the Democrats, giving them 60 votes. Of these, there are 15 to 20 Blue Dog Democrats. Without them, the Democrats do not have a majority. And Senator Joe Lieberman recently said he would join a Republican filibuster of any health care legislation that includes a public option, leaving the Democrats one short to defeat a filibuster. That, of course, assumes that all the Blue Dog Democrats vote for a health care reform bill, which is not at all certain. Clearly, the Blue Dogs control the issue in both Houses of Congress."
http://www.fogcityjournal.com/wordpress/2009/11/05/blue-dog-dems-and-healthcare-reform/
"Heeding the call but unable to make the trip, some activists in Arkansas are planning to engage in what might be called a Fax Fight, besieging their elected officials via fax -- all at noon -- with demands to kill the healthcare bill. They are especially targeting Arkansas Democrat Mike Ross, one of the Blue Dog Democrats from swing districts where a vote for a healthcare bill with a public option could spell political trouble at home."
http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2009/11/tea-party-activists-swarm-capitol-hill-can-they-kill-health-care-bill.html
Yes, I think we will see BHO re-elected. And if the GOP play their cards right, hopefully we can see a replay of 94-2000 when the conservative legislative checked the liberal executive branch and vise versa. And if so, perhaps we can get back to some sort of fiscal responsibility and away from budgets run amuck.
As for who's more susceptible, I think its blue dogs and considering 60% of Americans self identify as conservatives and right now, the ONLY group who can stand on their conservative record is House Republicans. Like it or not, that will mean something come election time next year.
SamCogar, I have no desire to "imprison" Dick Cheney. I enjoy seeing him squirm in his effort (and his daughter's) to re-write "his story." but there is much too much in way of film footage. There are too many documents. Too much in way of truth has been told all around him that he will not be able to alter and adjust the TRUTH. His prision began while he was serving as VP, firstly bunkered down where no one could find him; then MIA for days at a time; then relegated to the ranks of irrelevance after Rummy was dismissed. His opinions were neither sought out and he wasn't listened to, even when he made the appeal for Scooter. It seems to me that if he really wanted to be Scooter's friend, he would have summonsed the FBI back into his office, and told them "Now I want to fill in the blanks of those 72 questions that I couldn't answer before.
pacaderm, I'm in that 99.9% of heterosexual males who wanted a date, but my $250 dollars was refused because a greater amount was offered by David Vitter and Dick Morris of FOX News.
AaronS, if the 1993 elections preceding 1994 is to be followed, does that mean that the POTUS can expect a reelection in 2012, much like 1996? And need it be the Blue dogs that worry, or should it be the House Republicans, the only defined category who rank below the House Dems in opinion polls?
Eliz, you really should remove those “Rose Colored” glasses from off your “loving eyes” and remember that:
“[b]And, spite of pride, in erring reason's spite,
One truth is clear, whatever is, is right.[/b]”
(Alexander Pope)
But then Red Dragon 70 is deafening silent about why the Democrats refused to imprison Sandy the Burglar after he admitted to stealing documents out of the National Archives in 2003.
And also deafening silent about why the Democrats prosecuted and convicted Scooter Libby for outing Valerie Plame when they knew for a fact before the trial even began that it was a Democrat who was guilty of said outing.
The only good news Democrats can find is New York 23 as they try to imply that is a microcosm of the Republican Party.
Were Dede Scozzafava a true moderate Republican, that might be true. But considering Scozzafava is a liberal that backs cap and trade, the bailouts, card check and the stimulus, she's a Republican in name only who was nominated by 11 party bosses and not the Republican voters. She would have NEVER won a primary election against a conservative candidate.
For those interested in the truth.
http://www.humanevents.com/article.php?id=34272
Do not begin to lecture on racism. You do not care about racism, and you care less for the truth. BTW I will refer to President Jive, Empty Suit, Braindead any way I wish, especially since your kind do not care about respect either
100% of liberals think a contract with the American people written over two hundred years ago, lives and breaths.
100% of liberals think other peoples money is theirs.
85% of liberals are terrified of
A Ghosts
B Certified mail
92% of liberals cannot name more than four presidents.
69% of liberals still live with Mommy and Daddy.
99.9% of male heterosexual liberals cannot get a date without the phone number of a call girl service and 250$ cash.
Does no good with the libtards.
Fox has carried this story about the congressional house seat 23 all day. 1st Dem win since the Civil War. You see Fox is fair and balanced. It may take a while before the Gazette learns the name of the new Governor in our sister state.
http://tinyurl.com/ykht3ka
BTW independent studies have revealed that folks who relied on Fox News in the run-up to the Iraq war were far more likely to have factually flawed misconceptions
"78% of Bush supporters who watch Fox News said they thought the United States had found evidence of a direct link to al-Qaeda, while 50 percent of Bush supporters who rely on NPR/PBS thought so."
Note that the study revealed certain folks are far more likely to fall for Rupert Murdoch's Neocon propaganda than others:
[b]"Conversely, 48 percent of Fox viewers who said they would support a Democrat believed that such evidence had been found. But none of the Democrat-backers who relied on NPR/PBS believed it." http://tinyurl.com/Fox-LIARS
And lost two Governorships, including a traditional stronghold state for Democrats in which Barrack Obama personally made campaign appearances in an attempt to prop a fledgling incumbent.
What's more, the exact same scenario happened in 1993. Does that bode well that 2010 will be a repeat of 1994, especially given the fact that the number 1 item on exit polls was the economy.
Seems to me blue dogs are starting to worry.
Better get your cash into CEASEspin. They're so popular and accurate they're running out of dough and President Braindead hasn't funded them yet. If you lose them you'll have to go back to pasting The Nation or Acorn or the latest Superman comic.
I'm tuning in to Keith Olberman and Chris (My middle leg is tingling) Matthews. As I understand it they are ready to announce President Empty Suit has already been declared winner of the 2010 Masters Tourney.
Thanks to FoxNews, Rush Limbaugh and Dick Cheney, more Americans now admit to believing in UFOs than will publicly admit to being a member of the Republican party
FoxNews is used by wing nuts because it is the only "news" organization ever to sue for the right to lie on behalf of a corporate sponsor, successfully arguing that broadcasters have the right to lie or deliberately distort news reports on the public airwaves
http://tinyurl.com/Fox-distorts
Setting this legal precedent was crucial for the GOP because the right wing has nothing but wedge issues and lies to run on. If you think that I made that last statement up, then you likely missed when the GOP won the legal right to lie about opponents back in '06 here in WV after after Republican consultant David Welch testified that he knowingly lied about former WV Democratic gubernatorial Charlotte Pritt
Did you guys get your gingerbread recipes?
Have a bake sale, take the money and send it in to President Jive.
Not you union coal miners.....commit a little tax fraud, like Charlie Rangel, you're gonna need the money when the "global warning" wing of the libtard party gets through with you.
I read the FBI/Fitz report. The findings very well paralleled the Senate Intel Report(read at time of release). The only report that suggested VP lied & was party to Plame Id release was a headline from a liberal publication. The body of that story did not suggest a lie - only the headline.
Is the 72 number coming from suspected lies or the failure to have a distinct memory of an event? To avoid a perjury trap, his answer that it could have happened, but no specific recollection would be proper.
Is the basis for all this vile because the new VP would not share a list of people with whom he shared/solicited input on energy policy? Is this not carrying hurt feelings a little long?
Taking the bait, hook, line and sinker.
You have just described ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC and most lamestream papers.
Again, Fox is decidedly right, so what? They cover stories the aforementioned do not, if they did, Fox would not exist. Nor talk radio.
Where is the concern over MSNBC and it's girly-boy?
Libtards groan constantly about Fox and talk radio as though they have no fair press coverage.
VALERIE PLAME?????? The ACLU is currently "outing" CIA agents putting their lives at stake, but you probably didn't know that. Been watching your buddy Olberman too much. Van Jones is a flaming racist/communist..just not here. Acorn is totally corrupt and funded by us....not covered here. There were a few elections last evening....can't wait for James Haughts next series on how the Republican party is dead.
How is your boy, Tax pimp Rangel holding up? Never read it here. And that Rev Wright, you guys sure know a racist when you see one! Call em out to! Byrd=KKK
What they are trying to convey is that they help "balance" out the national media stage by offering up a conservative approach to the news. This offsets the liberal agendas of most of the other national news organizations.
Obviously they have struck a chord with the large majority of Americans as FOX has soared above the others in ratings.
3:00 pm A reporter makes small mention
5:00 pm Glenn Beck comes on and and gives commentary on how the administration is persecuting the past administration
6:00 The anchor brings forth the story, but qualifies it by saying "sources say" the administration is driving the "persecution"
8:00 O'Reilly gives his "Talking Points Memo" about "lefty loon" persecution, and then brings in Dick Morris in an interview to talk about "persecution" in the Clinton administration that he witnessed
9:00 Hannity is outraged because it has been "discovered" that there is a concerted effort in the present "communist" administration to subject former GOP admin to persecution
10:00 Greta, then interviews Liz Cheney to talk about what she knows about persecution, but Cheney lied to FBI, never mentioned
4GOD, making or mimicking such a blatant un-truthful and/or non-factual statement does nothing to help in substantiating your knowledge creditability.
Why would setting this legal precedent be important to the GOP?
Sorry Ted, Dan Rather already set that precedent.
Teddy OC, you should work on being more concise. First, drop the website links, I'm not reading them and I doubt many others are. If you want to convince us low-brows of your points, you need to make your point clearly and concisely. You should know that we Fox News automatons have a short attention span.
Like you, I love Fox News too, but for a different reason. Singlehandedly they have thwarted an all-star Democratic team comprised of the Presidency, House and Senate. What power they have over us dumbbells! They just say the word, we tell the gov't to shove it, and Reid/Pelosi/Obama are left wringing their hands, then instead of acknowledging how magnificently they have snatched defeat from the jaws of victory, they turn and call us racists.
It really is a shame that we are not bright enough to comprehend how brilliant your Democratic agenda is.
Is Acorn a news story....The NYT seems to think so now, as they have apologized for not carrying it.
Is Van Jones a news story?
Is Rangel a news story? A tax cheat of enormous proportions that sits chairs the Ways and Means committee.
The White House communications director names Chairman Mao a hero (as I am pretty sure he is one of yours too) He is responsible for the murder of 26 million. Slightly more than the your hated US corporations are responsible for. Is that a news story?
Again, you wheel out your rediculous far left sites and ignore what the "Lamestream Press" REFUSES to cover.
How is the UMWA going to survive once Obama kills coal.....oops, another news story.
Fox attorneys successfully argued that the 1st Amendment gives broadcasters the right to lie or deliberately distort news reports on the public airwaves
http://tinyurl.com/m8tc5g
Why would setting this legal precedent be important to the GOP? It's because the right wing has nothing but wedge issues and lies to run on. If you think I made that last statement up, then don't forget that the GOP won the legal right to lie about their opponents back in 2006 right here in WV after after Republican consultant David Welch testified that he knowingly lied about former WV Democratic gubernatorial Charlotte Pritt.
Thanks to FoxNews, Rush Limbaugh and Dick Cheney, more Americans will openly admit to believing in UFOs than will publicly admit to being a member of the Republican party
I LOVE FoxNews.
So what? After 60 years of one party rule on the three networks the Libtards got pretty complacent (unless you think that men such as Walter Cronkite were ardent Constitution fans.) Fact of the matter is technology threw a wet blanket on the Libtards fire. First talk radio (sorry libtards but news is news in news regardless of where it emits) then the internet and now Fox. Fox is decidedly conservative.....so what? You can always get NBC, CBS, ABC, CNN, NYT, LAT even this Marxist rag. Libtards just hate free speech, almost as much as they hate freedom. After all, in a free country, where the US Constitution isn't run over by socialists planting their like minded libtards on the court then they have a problem confiscating other peoples money.
Love the comment citizenX......you are exactly right. As we go down the socialist toilet I do get a huge laugh out of the shock coming from the lefts biggest support group...the UNION
Lux, you're emissing the point big time. I don't think any Fox News devotee will claim that Fox's opinion shows are news. We are simply resisting the accusation that their news is not news.
Once again a thoughful response from you. But this -
"a short 18 months ago Cal Thomas et al praised the previous administration for "finally taking on the networks, CNN, and MSNBC." "
Did the Bush administration "take them on"? Most of us missed that. Either they were more subtle about it (less defensive?paranoid?) or perhaps, to your point, these oppositions network were less defensive and paranoid. Or maybe CNN et al did broadcast this story far and wide but noone paid attention because their viewership is so low.
"For centuries, the battle of morality was fought between those who claimed that your life belongs to God and those who claimed that it belongs to your neighbors—between those who preached that the good is self-sacrifice for the sake of ghosts in heaven and those who preached that the good is self-sacrifice for the sake of incompetents on earth. And no one came to say that your life belongs to you and that the good is to live it."
Ran out of space before I could say that the AM news and noon day news is well presented on Fox. Starting at 4 PM with Cavuto, Fox has personalities producing shows. You can choose or reject the style of the show since a lot of salesmanship of their style is involved. The competing network during the evening hours have similar shows with their presentation of style and the stories they want to project. The viewer has a choice as to the network that is more satisfying and the coverage meets ones personal need.
It is up to the consumer of the product being presented as to the satisfaction derived. There are some shows on Fox that I do not watch because of the style of moderator. Ditto for shows on MSNBC, CNN (only watch networks for athletic events) and others. IMO, Fox allows views from the opposing point to be made. MSNBC invites opposing views in some cases, but they are shouted down.
Which is more fair and balanced in the end? Probably the one that meets your need
Beck- in his presentation of Czar Jones, you could see his bias in his presentation presentation. But he started with some facts that were uncovered by another and persisted until Jones removal. Coverage by other networks was nonexistant until the end.
Rather- in his presentation on Bush was unsubstantiated with any facts. Other networks picked it up and ran with it. When proven that it was void of fact, the story just died with little reporting that stories were false. Rather lost his position as a serious news source.
Greta - has made stories with redundancy. OJ, Holiman, Fla child kidnapped. Factual base, but lifetime story.
Morning and afternoon Newsgood
That list of issues looks like they were copied directly from the DNC’s Handbook of Talking Points.
Check out & google these keywords - white house controlled media Anita Dunn
jes, the American version of the Berlin Wall or Iron Curtin has been erected throughout the United States by the Leaders of the two major Political Parties to better benefit themselves personally and if at all possible it would/will still take decades to “tear it down” ….. and I share your fear that before that could happen our country will be dismantled and torn apart.
Obama and his Czars with the blessings of the “power” in Congress are on “fast track” to doing said.
I do like you Democrat "talking heads" comment though, but we can't clump them all into one group.
Maybe Nancy we can:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/10/29/AR2009102904597.html?hpid=topnews
nozingers, I don’t think you realize it but your above comment is actually an oxymoron.
“oxymoron - conjoining contradictory terms (as in `deafening silence')”
Putting your faith and trust in a highly non-factual document ….. while not trusting something that is most probably factual ……. seems kinda biased and prejudiced to me.
nozingers, ………. GIMME A BREAK.
You know exactly what said term means in the context in which I used it.
Democrat “talking heads” have no debating skills. They are fixated on mouthing their agitprop and are oblivious to anything being debated. I often compare them to “living jukeboxes”. They “play” the same ole, same ole piffling “tune” depending on which one of their “buttons” get pushed.
I probably missed something somewhere, but here comes the Red Man changing the subject away from the bias that the Gaz suggests exists at Fox News. As an entry into the subject, he lists a series of liberal talking points presented by the Dems. Red, if you offer these as points not discussed on Fox, I would challenge the validity of same. I had certainly heard all of these "facts" reported on Fox. Historically Fox got all of my viewership since Dstorm except for the reality showes on C-span I, II, and III.
As I have suggested previously, I suspect that most people watch the network that is more closely aligned with their way of thinking. For me that explains why Fox gets greater viewership. Fox will allow opposing points of view. Other channels cannot accept challenge.
Of course, I choose not to do that because I have accountability. You?
Look, Roger Ailes accepted the assignment from Murdock and set out build the most popular broadcasting network, with an unashamed slant. What I find interesting is how they declare their news hours to be sandwiched between those "entertainment commentaries," presenting them back to back. Something is very fishy about that!
MSNBC's Chris Matthews live reporting :
"I have to tell you, you know, it's part of reporting this case, this election, the feeling most people get when they hear Barack Obama's speech. My, I felt this thrill going up my leg. I mean, I don't have that too often. No, seriously. It's a dramatic event. He speaks about America in a way that has nothing to do with politics. It has to do with the feeling we have about our country. And that is an objective assessment."
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/brad-wilmouth/2008/02/13/matthews-obama-speech-caused-thrill-going-my-leg
Here's one from CNN for starters:
CNN Ignored Own Tape, Pushed False Partisan Shot at McCain
"But for most of the day, CNN had trusted their partisan source and ignored their own tape. How convenient for Democrats — and disturbing for those hoping for fair and balanced campaign coverage this year."
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/nb-staff/2008/05/20/cnn-ignored-own-tape-pushed-false-partisan-shot-mccain
I have not come up with a tally of Fox's questionably reported stories as you have, nor have I done the same for CNN and the others (I assume you have), but I was watching a Fox reporter a couple of weeks ago reporting on a Palestinian uprising in Jerusalem. He was ducking as rocks were being hurled at him. That looked like legitimate news coverage to me.
I realize I am possibly biting off more than I can chew by addressing you directly, but as they say, steel sharpens steel.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/10/29/AR2009102904597.html?hpid=topnews
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091102/ap_on_go_ca_st_pe/us_cheney_cia_leak
KBR (Halliburton) excess billings (ACORN pales in comparison)
Blackwater killings
Pat Tillmn killing (horrendous)
Jessica Lynch as heroine (she herself told a different story)
W lies (4000+ dead)
Scientists who deny global warming (and evolution)
Sarah Palin Idiocy Tour (she's got time since she holds no office)
Scooter Libby lies (and now, what did Cheney tell the FBI?)
Relaxed standards and limited oversight yields Wall STreet financial fiasco and near depression
Derivatives (see above)
"You're doin' a heck of a job, Brownie" as Katrina goes under
"We kept the nation safe for 7 years and 4 months!" (yeah, but you held office for 8 full years)
Alberto Gonzales (see W lies)
Harriett Meiers (see Palin idiocy)
Paying Iraqi news outlets for favorable coverage!
Paying American journalists for favorable news coverage!
My list is endless!
@jes The funny thing is that I'm a Conservative. NOT a Republican. Definitely NOT a democrat. I'm no longer a Republican UNTIL they get back on the bus that brought them to prominence.
I just look for the best source of information that isn't vulgar, that is fair, and that will give me both sides while slightly leaning toward the right side for me.
That, for me, is Fox News. Again, this article is very and most undoubtedly BUNK.
Oh, and people, Fox News wins in ALL ratings categories and has almost double the viewership of all others COMBINED for a reason - The Majority of Americans who care about our government (that, unfortunately, is less people than ever) know where the REAL and honest information lies. They know where ALL STORIES are told and none are mysteriously left out. That would be Fox News.
Thanks, Gazette, for the free ads for Fox News!! lol
United we stand -- divided we are falling - labels tear our country apart. Piece by piece, watch the dangerous damage.
Look at all of the news outlets aside from Fox News: MSNBC, CNN, ABC, NBC, CBS. They all have a leftist agenda and you cannot deny that. NO way, no how can you deny it.
No one watches Fox News during the day because, if they're lucky in this Obama economy, they're at work. They air nonstop, unbiased coverage of all news and when political issues arise, they ALWAYS have both sides. BOTH SIDES!!!
Of course, during the evening, they show political commentary-COMMENTARY!! That's opinion to you and me. They don't deny it. Greta van Sustern is really apolitical while Glenn Beck is a Constitutionalist, not a Republican. Hannity is a Conservative Republican but prides himself on having liberal guests on every night to have opposing viewpoints.
These are undeniable FACTS! Facts.
Fox News is right-leaning, sure, but their news is VERY BALANCED and their commentators have both views on whenever possible. The leftists DO NO
It is a paradox to me, howver, that you could still be a classic liberal and Obama supporter with such a reasonable perspective.
I'm saying that most people could care less about you and me, nor should we expect them to. I thought you were betraying an entitlement philosophy, like the world owes you a favor. Forgive me if I have miscontrued. I did like the rest the of your post, and like to believe as well that I am as objective as a human can be.
But, no matter. It's common knowledge that FOX leans right and NPR, for example, leans left. Makes more sense to me to get news through both sets of filters, as well as more objective sources like Reuters or the BBC, then form my own opinion. What matters is the veracity of the information.
Secondly, I can know my own prejudices and decline to factor them into my decisions. I have a set of standards from the Bible, and I compare my attitudes to those. Seems pretty simple to me. And I am not necessarily prejudiced against the opinions of the commentators I mentioned. I just don't trust them to be honest with their facts. See the difference? Third, I do not presume to be all-knowing with respect to peoples' motivations. However, I learned evaluative skills in college. I still try to use those skills. They are not infallible, but they are the best tools I have. I do not claim to be able to supernaturally judge someone's heart. See the difference?
First off, Fox showed the Obama Healthcare farce after all. This author is a liar. Obama moved the healthcare debacle so it would be shown and Fox indeed aired it.
MSNBC is more biased than Fox News ever will be. MSNBC commentators call Conservatives vulgar names and insult them constantly while pining on about the "Great Savior" Barrack Hussein Obama and how he'll save our country with his socialist ways.
Of course, you people want to turn a blind eye to the obvious about Fox News. They ALWAYS have opposing viewpoints from BOTH sides on all issues. This author has never watched Fox News; and if the author HAS watched Fox News, they are in SERIOUS DENIAL.
Yes, Fox has Conservative commentators, but at least they have class and don't use insulting and vulgar language. Heck, Sean Hannity ALWAYS has liberals on to offer the opposition's view.
"Middle" Fox is viewed as Right Wing ONLY b/c everyone else is so far left. Period.
I think we should spend less time worrying about who cares for us and care for ourselves and others instead.
You suggest you can read or listen and omit your own prejudice. I would suggest that is a goal and not reality. To wit: "don't waste much time......Olberman, Hannity, Beck, Maddow". You neglect your prejudice because you have a proconceived notion and thus prejudiced against what they are going to say before you hear their thoughts.
Do you actually present to us that you are that all knowing that you can listen to statements and know what is honest v dishonest? If you possess that talent, don't you think you are cheating the world by not having a vehicle/voice that would correct all statements made by anyone that deceives? Mortal man is not so endowed.
Myself, I embrace my biases. Considering they revolve around the Constitution and generally involve the principals our forefathers founded this country on, generally my bias involve what is best for this country.
But that’s just me.
Then where do you get your news as the vast majority of sites are biased to one side or the other.
MU4WVU2: Reread my post carefully. Where did I say that voting for Fox was an option? Also, what does your question about lying pols have to do with my comment that I can usually tell something in a person's face, as I said, "after I have watched them for a while"? I claim no special ability to read strange faces.
HORSEPUCKY, the claim by Fox News as being “Fair and Balanced” has absolutely nothing to do with the Commentator’s opinion or point of view.
Said “Fair and Balanced” claim pertains 100% to Programming content and I do not think anyone can cite a Fox Program or Commentator that does not permit and/or afford “equal time” to/for opposing commentary ……. and/or does not report News stories that are contrary or defaming to any person or to the beliefs and/or opinions of said Commentators or Fox News in particular.
The lefty liberals hate Fox News because they don’t like their own “dirty laundry” being aired.
Like with this News Forum, ..... they want that "smell" deleted.
GOOD GRIEF, J.Bradley , the first wave of the left wing “Socialist minded” hit in the mid to late 70’s as a result of LBJ’s Great Society Program. And when part of that group became Teachers in the Public Schools and Colleges the numbers of left wing “Socialist minded” exacerbated year after year and now make up the MAJORITY of all Teachers, Instructors, Professors and Administrative personnel in the Education Field.
The present day Educators are now teaching their students to believe in and support the very things that the parents and grandparents of said Educators fought and died for to prevent happening. Instead of just fighting the Socialists, Fascists, Communists and Religious perverts in Europe, Asia and South America, the “right wingers” are now having to fight all of them here in the USA.
You make a couple sensible statements and the go off on a tangent that makes no sense. Some great ......movement sweeping. Mid year elections historically replace some of the incumbents. If you accept that a great revelation from Fox, you are a little light on political history. I watch Fox daily and have not seen the revelation that conservativeism is sweeping the country. Are you referring to Fox network or one particular show? Some of the shows I don't watch much, so which one is it to which you assign the "movement......"?
Nozing, I didn't have an option to vote for or against Fox on my 2006 and 2008 ballots. Where did you vote that gave you those options? The candidate that Fox was pushing must have been "in a relatively speaking context" since the other stations were openly supporting the liberal candidate. Finally, to test your ability to read facial expressions, who was last pol to tell the truth?
Fox News is a news channel with opinion shows , just like the other news channels. Their news slants some to the right, just as their competition slants to the left. If you don't see that - it's the Kool-aid you've been drinking.
Not to mention Prez Obama is quite thin-skinned. Didn't see Bush/Cheney going to war with any news organizations. Don't tell me they were any easier on them than Fox is on Obama.
What whiners - you've got the Presidency and both houses of Congress, but you can't get anything done because of Fox News.
You should be embarrassed to even weigh in on this thread.
Before I read the rest of your post, I must stop and tell you that is nonsense. I watch it all - no Kool-aid here. Everyone reports, I decide. I generally agree with the perspective of Fox's opinion shows versus their comnpetitors, but I am fully versed on all perspectives.
So shove it please.
Never trust information from an obviously biased source, be it on the right or left. I like to look at their faces for clues, especially the area around their mouths. People can't control their lower faces as well as they can control their eyes. A phony smiles is obvious if you watch that person's mouth for a while, unless the person is a genuine sociopath.
They could be researching the cure for cancer, or maybe just watching Dancing with the Stars. Either way you look at it, Fox is still slaying Obama's news channels.
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Not entirely justright. Liberals don't wany anyone shedding the light of truth on their policies because they know that as the bulk of Americans do consider themselves basically conservative, if the truth is shown on such programs as universal health care, cap and trade, the stimulus, card check and other pay back policies for those who purchased the election, Americans will by and large reject those policies. The left can't have that so they try to silence the right.
Gallup: More conservatives than liberals
The 35 percent of independents describing their views as conservative in 2009 is up from 29 percent in 2008.
Obama benefited greatly from the Independent vote & that's wanning. Democrats will be watching & probably taking heed at next week's elections for governor in VA & NJ. Some folks who voted for change didn't bargain for the "radical" changes - when Obama presented himself as a moderate during the campaign & turned sharply left after election. Time will tell.
http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1009/28762.html
It's a hoot that the Gazette complains about Fox, while Ken Ward, in his blog, talks about the wide shoulders of the Gazette & welcoming differing opinions, and then I read numerous comments about posts being deleted. I can't even post to Ken's blog - guess he doesn't like my opinion and/or my criticism
"Gazette tries to provide a forum for all sorts of views, and tries to have what one of my bosses calls “big shoulders,” or an ability to take — and publish for readers to see — criticism of our coverage."
[url]http://blogs.wvgazette.com/coaltattoo/2009/10/14/coal-tattoo-welcomes-opposin
Objective and non-partisan news stories? You mean like the mountaintop removal protest coverage? Where the coal miners are "unruly", unlike the out-of-town left-wing "activists" who come here and break the law? You people are a riot!
Objective? Non-partisan? Neither.
And doing a piece taking apart a competing news organization? That's rich! However, trying to link Fox network and Fox News was just plain stupid. Both NBC and MSNBC, however, used to ignore coverage of Bush speeches.
There is one--and only one--reason that the left villifies Fox News:
They're successful. Very successful.
And the left simply cannot abide dissent.
James Haught is in charge of the best newspaper for outhouse consumtion in the USA. This editorial is just the most recent example of what liberal journalists will actually try to get away with.
Here are some news stories the Gazette pays no heed to.
ACORN
VAN JONES ( but they do run a nice piece on the Van Jones boycott of Fox)
14 BILLION loan to George Soros' Brazillian firm to drill for oil while Libtards force us to stop drilling.
WHITE HOUSE COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR CITES CHAIRMAN MAO AS HERO. (He only murdered 26 million people)
OBAMA LIES (pick a topic....openess, pork, stimulus working etc etc)
SCIENTISTS WHO CRITIZE GLOBAL WARMING
JOE BIDEN COMEDY TOUR
ABORTIONS PAID FOR IN NEW HEALTH CARE BILL
DEMS FORCE BANKS TO MAKE BAD LOANS
I could go on but most who have posted here already know it. BTW where are all the libtard, FOX haters?????
You too, huh.
M in A, those 97 million gave up watching and/or reading the News when it ceased to become News by evolving into primarly partisan Political agitprop and liberally biased Reporting and Commentary.
Several Newspapers have ceased publication and others have downsized and/or are on the verge of bankruptcy. Most Cable News programming is just barely surviving.
The public wants "fair n' balanced" News reporting and any entity that provides said ........ they will read or listen.
The numbers I heard the other day are that at their peak evening hours, during O'Reily, Beck and Hanity, Fox's viewership is around 3 million. While CNN and MSNBC's top shows - A. Cooper and K. Oberman - have 150,000 - 200,000 viewers. Wow, what a contrast. Sort of scary if you are a Lib or Dem.
Realistically, if there are 300 million Americans, and let's say that equates to (for arguments sake) 100 million households, then there are 97 million households doing something else other than watching vitriolic political commentary during peak television hours. Fox's flamboyant and sensationalist style makes life seem larger than it really is.
Without Fox News and talk radio, many newsworthy items would remain concealed from public view. Perhaps this is why the Obama Administration and the so-called mainstream media are so eager to criticize and condemn Fox News and major talk radio personalities. For it is the radical agenda of the radical left that receives the most benefit from concealment.
Vasht, are suggesting MSNBC has any balance in any of their presentations? If so, which show have I missed. Also, "for all the idiots" (your words) OP-ED pages still have some balance and outright falsehoods should not stand as an opinion. The purpose of this forum is to allow comments on what the Gaz prints. IMO most of the comments here were fair depictions of the Gaz in total.
No story there
To be sure Fox has a bias...as do all the other news organizations. Do a quick channel change at 6:30 and you will see that all the major networks are reporting the same stories. Amazing. We, the American people, are being fed a steady diet of homogenized crap from the major media sources. Luckily, the internet and foreign press can still provide some clarity while the major news outlets continue to dry up. As for Fox, I will continue to watch them and decide what I believe.
So, I'm confused. Is MSNBC not considered a "news" network? If so, how come they have so many far-left commentators on there, wrapped around a certain amount of routine news.
I like Valerie Jarrett's opinion on the matter:
On Fox News, home to right-wingers like Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity and Glenn Beck: "Of course they're biased."
On MSNBC, home to left-wing commentators like Keith Olbermann, Rachel Maddow and Bill Maher, [who] openly scorn conservatives: "This is the thing. I don't want to just generalize that all Fox is biased, or that another station is biased. I think what we want to do is look at it on a case by case basis. And when we see a pattern of distortion, we're going to be honest about that pattern of distortion."
So, of course THEY are biased. But not OUR newschannel. That would be crazy. Oh, Gazette. Thank you for this delightful silliness on an early Saturday morning.
Murdock must be laughing all the way to the bank.